Tears before bedtime
Tears before bedtime
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randlemarcus

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13,646 posts

258 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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It looks unfortunately like I have brought about the timely demise of the oil-seals or similar on my 89 Turbo.



The back-story is that I seemed to have broken something horrible, but a bonnet down diagnosis was that if I was lucky, I had merely split a hose.

Having had my local garage have a quick spanner from the intercooler backwards they couldn’t find anything, thus my suspicion that there was a problem with the turbo itself.



Back-story:

Car has 160K, and has never had the turbo replaced. It has never given trouble before either. The problem started a while ago, when I ran the car to the redline in second. The problem is definitely worse when the car is up to temp, or the weather is hot. When the car comes on boost at those times, the exhaust can be seen to emit a dark grey(definitely not white) smoke, and is now starting to run rough at idle.



Questions:

I have previously had the car serviced at Specialist Cars, and though they did a fantastic job, their rates are a little high, and I suspect that this is not going to be a cheap job in the least, therefore:

1) Has anyone experience of Strasse in Leeds, or an establishment within an hour or so of Hull(as I don’t want to drive it too far).

2) If it is the Turbo, how much is that going to cost(I have heard ugly rumours of £800 for another turbo, and 12 hours labour)

3) Would I be better going for one of Andrew Sweetenhams Lindsay Racing turbos, and bugger the cost(Big Ouch)



Yours in sadness, but at least I haven’t burnt the damn thing out in temper J



Marcus

Niffty951

2,385 posts

255 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Ah ha!! I recognise this!! You are another titanic lurker like myself! (sorry I can't think of any way to help by the way. Unless there is some way of interchanging turbo parts to take the hotside from your turbo and add it to the K26/6 turbo I have sitting in the garage which was running fine when it came off my car at 82,500 miles?

pgm

2,168 posts

276 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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hard luck marcus - hope you get it sorted

cheers
Paul

LeeME3

1,502 posts

253 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Hard luck Marcus. Not sure if it is close enough but, IMO, the guys at 911sport just east of Lincoln are superb. They are perfectionists and don't rush the job, but labour rates are reasonable (relatively speaking!) and they do a damn good job! Full contact details at www.911sport.co.uk

Good luck with the repairs!

>> Edited by LeeME3 on Wednesday 6th July 21:08

rich 36

13,739 posts

293 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Bad luck mate, hope it doesnt' put to much of a downer on the rest of the summers mileage, can you keep us up to date, as a turbo is to be my next step on the Porsche-ladder

ninemeister

1,146 posts

285 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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IF the turbo is trousered and IF the engine is in perfect condition and IF you are looking at doing no other modifications, either:

1. Repair the standard 3LDZ turbo (typically £4-500)
2. Buy a used 3LDZ turbo (typically £200) since they very rarely fail.
3. Consider replacing it with a K27/11 IF you fancy a more modern unit with faster spool up. Unfortunately this will involve buying a new unit outright, price is around £1500.

I would not recommend sourcing turbos from the USA as we have seen many come through our workshop with problems and it is an awfully long way to have to send them back for warranty repair. However the upside to this (for me) is that on practically every occasion when a customer has supplied his own, we have the opportunity to charge him twice to remove and refit it after it goes wrong. Think about this carefully, I suggest that whatever you choose to do you should single source the work and the parts to avoid warranty issues that cost you more money.

sfl993t4

202 posts

268 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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I can confirm that I will be paying Colin to remove and refit my USA sourced turbos.
Have fun.

silver993tt

9,064 posts

266 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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sfl993t4 said:
I can confirm that I will be paying Colin to remove and refit my USA sourced turbos.
Have fun.


Why, what's the problem?

DanH

12,287 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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Refurb I've been told is a very good option as often they are alledgedly put back together better than the manufacturer can (due to hand finishing etc).

Agree about the single supplier. Its good to have a relationship with a place for this very reason.

goulsbraa

34 posts

256 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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Sounds similar to a problem I had with mine, blowing grey/black smoke under boost. The problem turned out to be a dodgy fuel pump. Might be worth checking the delivery pressure before you start messing with the turbo.

fergus

6,430 posts

302 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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Strasse do lots of the more complicated work for other 'specialists' in the area (no names mentioned). Get yourself over the pennines for a visit to Mr. Belton?

basil brush

5,583 posts

290 months

Friday 15th July 2005
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I used Strasse a couple of times back when I had the 944S. The work I had done was ok, but I changed to Hartech instead.