Got court summons for speeding
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Hi all, need some advice to choose the way
Police caught me on gun, was riding my bike 58 on 30pmh dual carriageway on dry, sunny morning at 07:30 am.
It was August and first Covid-19 lockdown and I got HGV job shortly before offence after loosing my business because of Corona again.
Rushed not to be late and did not expect that policeman jump out from the "bushes" so unexpectedly.
I will plea guilty but need something to say to magistrate not punish me to hard cos I may loose my driving job, I have family and bloody mortgage..(
I'm not intend to pay to have barrister with me because the price just unaffordable and there no promises so I will mitigate myself.
many thanks
Police caught me on gun, was riding my bike 58 on 30pmh dual carriageway on dry, sunny morning at 07:30 am.
It was August and first Covid-19 lockdown and I got HGV job shortly before offence after loosing my business because of Corona again.
Rushed not to be late and did not expect that policeman jump out from the "bushes" so unexpectedly.
I will plea guilty but need something to say to magistrate not punish me to hard cos I may loose my driving job, I have family and bloody mortgage..(
I'm not intend to pay to have barrister with me because the price just unaffordable and there no promises so I will mitigate myself.
- Should I go to the court or do it online/post?
- What can I have for this offence now?
many thanks
krotov71 said:
Do you mean if I go to the Court then I would facing disqualification (shot ban but no points)?
If you go to court when the matter could have been delt with via SJP the magistrates will not like it.The magistrates courts do not want people stood up in court talking a load of useless time wasting twaddle.
If it is a SJPN just fill it in and say your concentration slipped and appologies. It will be delt with within 30 seconds along with other 100 SJPN the magistrate has to deal with before lunch.
kestral said:
If you go to court when the matter could have been delt with via SJP the magistrates will not like it.
The magistrates courts do not want people stood up in court talking a load of useless time wasting twaddle.
If it is a SJPN just fill it in and say your concentration slipped and appologies. It will be delt with within 30 seconds along with other 100 SJPN the magistrate has to deal with before lunch.
This is very logical point but why the solicitors advise to go to the court and bring the mitigation? The magistrates courts do not want people stood up in court talking a load of useless time wasting twaddle.
If it is a SJPN just fill it in and say your concentration slipped and appologies. It will be delt with within 30 seconds along with other 100 SJPN the magistrate has to deal with before lunch.
Just apologise profusely and deal with it online.
There’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
There’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
mattyprice4004 said:
Just apologise profusely and deal with it online.
There’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
if you never ride motorbike then you won't understand how the double speed appearing. its not car. my driving licence only in UK is 20 years old, don't count my native land and it was always clean so you never know whats may happen tomorrow with you personally, be gentle replaying the post when serious advise needed, thanksThere’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
Edited by krotov71 on Sunday 7th February 18:31
krotov71 said:
mattyprice4004 said:
Just apologise profusely and deal with it online.
There’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
if you never ride motorbike then you won't understand how the double speed appearing. its not car. my driving licence only in UK is 20 years old, don't count my native land and it was always clean so you never know whats may happen tomorrow with you personally, be gentle replaying the post when serious advise needed, thanksThere’s no point turning up if all you’re planning to do is justify why you were going nearly double the speed limit with no acceptable reason - you’re just wasting their time.
Not to jump on the self-righteous train as that helps no one, but it does absolutely baffle me that people will do double the limit when they rely on their licence so much...
Edited by krotov71 on Sunday 7th February 18:31
Sorry it’s not what you want to hear - but you’ve had good advice already.
tigger1 said:
Doesn’t sound like you can’t safely ride a bike. Hope that helps.
Sorry it’s not what you want to hear - but you’ve had good advice already.
Someone's full of themselves. Sorry it’s not what you want to hear - but you’ve had good advice already.
I love this place, full of self-righteous halfwits who clearly have never ever ever done anything wrong. EVER.
Poor grasp of English too.
SteveR1979 said:
tigger1 said:
Doesn’t sound like you can’t safely ride a bike. Hope that helps.
Sorry it’s not what you want to hear - but you’ve had good advice already.
Someone's full of themselves. Sorry it’s not what you want to hear - but you’ve had good advice already.
I love this place, full of self-righteous halfwits who clearly have never ever ever done anything wrong. EVER.
Poor grasp of English too.
Schmed said:
Perhaps the bike was “stolen” or the plates were cloned...
If you weren’t stopped at the scene or were wearing a helmet there may be some doubt it was you and not someone else?
Perhaps a “friend” visiting from abroad?
Plenty of avenues of defence to explore, admit nothing!
Op, I’d stick with agtlaw’s advice. The above options could lead to a whole new level of problems.If you weren’t stopped at the scene or were wearing a helmet there may be some doubt it was you and not someone else?
Perhaps a “friend” visiting from abroad?
Plenty of avenues of defence to explore, admit nothing!
krotov71 said:
Hi all, need some advice to choose the way
Police caught me on gun, was riding my bike 58 on 30pmh dual carriageway on dry, sunny morning at 07:30 am.
It was August and first Covid-19 lockdown and I got HGV job shortly before offence after loosing my business because of Corona again.
Rushed not to be late and did not expect that policeman jump out from the "bushes" so unexpectedly.
I will plea guilty but need something to say to magistrate not punish me to hard cos I may loose my driving job, I have family and bloody mortgage..(
I'm not intend to pay to have barrister with me because the price just unaffordable and there no promises so I will mitigate myself.
many thanks
You will get royal screwed by the Mags absolutely nothing you can do about it.Police caught me on gun, was riding my bike 58 on 30pmh dual carriageway on dry, sunny morning at 07:30 am.
It was August and first Covid-19 lockdown and I got HGV job shortly before offence after loosing my business because of Corona again.
Rushed not to be late and did not expect that policeman jump out from the "bushes" so unexpectedly.
I will plea guilty but need something to say to magistrate not punish me to hard cos I may loose my driving job, I have family and bloody mortgage..(
I'm not intend to pay to have barrister with me because the price just unaffordable and there no promises so I will mitigate myself.
- Should I go to the court or do it online/post?
- What can I have for this offence now?
many thanks
TX.
OK I never ridden or should that be driven a motorbike, so could I check something? Do bikes have a speedo?
If yes, surely all you have to do to avoid the speeding fine is spot the big sign with the number in it and make sure the number on the speedo is less or not much more than that?
It really doesn't seem any harder than obeying the limit in a car.
Maybe the OP is so poor at controlling his bike he would fall off at low speeds?
If yes, surely all you have to do to avoid the speeding fine is spot the big sign with the number in it and make sure the number on the speedo is less or not much more than that?
It really doesn't seem any harder than obeying the limit in a car.
Maybe the OP is so poor at controlling his bike he would fall off at low speeds?
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