New coal mine gets go ahead.

[Ozone]

A new deep coal mine in Cumbria has had approval to open. I wonder how many people who complained that the mines were closed in the 80's will now complain that this bad for the environment.

https://www.ft.com/content/5b04e813-6bdb-476a-9f4a...

Edited by Ozone on Tuesday 9th February 20:30

[Andeh1]

Pay wall.

[Ozone]

Hopefully this works

https://www.vox.com/22268250/uk-coalmine-cumbria-c...

[barryrs]

If I remember correctly this will mean that coal won’t need to be shipped halfway round the world for steel production which sounds like common sense and more environmentally friendly.

Unless you’re of the NIMBY persuasion and only your immediate environment is the environment that matters.

[Drezza]

Good for the environment (globally), creates local jobs, British manufacturing... Sounds good to me.

[Andeh1]

Last i heard it was still being reviewed. With all the negative PR, I don't think it stands a chance.

Article doesn't suggest anything has changed or been approved?

[Thin White Duke]

Why would anyone in Cumbria complain about this when they have a nuclear power station on their doorstep?

I think it's a good thing.

[Ozone]

Andeh1 said:

Last i heard it was still being reviewed. With all the negative PR, I don't think it stands a chance.

Article doesn't suggest anything has changed or been approved?

The FT says;

The mine, approved by Cumbria county council in October, will extract about 2.4m tonnes of coal annually, mainly from under the seabed. Trains will take the processed coal to blast furnaces in Shorpe in Lincolnshire, Port Talbot in south Wales, and possibly overseas.

According to Channel 4 news the government isn't going to block the councils approval, which is the reason for the environmental complaints.

[Gareth79]

Ozone said:

Shorpe

Amusing that this is still being censored in 2021.

[Lotobear]

No one in Cumbria is complaining, just the usual suspects from outside the county and some beardie 'professor' bloke from New York I've never heard of but who is apparently an 'eminent climate scientist' according to the MSM

The local news this evening reported that the County Council has withdrawn 'consent' anyway so it looks like they've caved in to pressure from Greta et al and we will therefore continue to ship our coking coal from Australia on boats powered by heavy oil and Germany will continue to plough lignite out of massive holes in the ground with complete impunity - you could not make it up.

[Johnnytheboy]

Thin White Duke said:

Why would anyone in Cumbria complain about this when they have a nuclear power station on their doorstep?

I think it's a good thing.

Because CO2 at a guess.

[Burrow01]

FT is reporting that Cumbrian Council will be reviewing the application again

"Permission for a new UK coal mine could be revoked after the local authority that approved the plans last year said it would review the decision"

Seems sensible that this should go ahead, its for coking coal, there is no renewables source of energy currently available, and it saves shipping coal half way around the world, but I'm sure environmentalists will be fighting it all the way as its "coal" rather than looking at the bigger picture

[anonymous-user]

Looks like the local councils have now decided to 'bottle it'. Under 'pressure'.
BBC News - Whitehaven coal mine plan to be re-examined by council
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-5600...

Probably took the correct decision looking all smug thinking the gov will call it in for examination and reject then we can say 'ohhh look, it wasn't us who said no', it was the nasty government preventing much needed well paid jobs'.

The Joys of localism eh, let them make decisions locally then backtrack

[powerstroke]

I love how global warming has now become climate change , they aren't really sure but it’s. a good money maker for the climate gravy train..
little to do with what’s right ...

[A Winner Is You]

Ah well, far better for the environment just to ship it from Russia instead.

[crankedup]

What annoys me is that Germany continue to burn coal that supplies up to 40% (2016) of their energy needs. They are committed to have the coal burning furnaces closed down by 2038. Not much urgency there then.

[Thin White Duke]

Johnnytheboy said:

Thin White Duke said:

Why would anyone in Cumbria complain about this when they have a nuclear power station on their doorstep?

I think it's a good thing.

Because CO2 at a guess.

Ah yes of course, better get Greta in to put a stop to it.

[Corvid-2020]

Errrm, have a look where NIREX were going to bury our nuclear waste...specifically the Cumbrian RCF...which whilst South of Sellafield did notice some potential coal seams running down from Whitehaven in the 1990s enquiry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirex

2028 - down the mine "hey boss, you know they said this coal was for steel, well I have found steel". "Keep drilling boy, see what other precious metals we can BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"

A geologist friend in the nuclear underground disposal industry said they were stting this mine getting approval as a rock formation with coal in it 10 miles from Sellafield (60 million years old compressed dinosaurs) is exactly the wrong sort of rock formation (500 million years old) that they need to dump nuclear waste in. Many more jobs in Cumbria for hundreds of years managing nuclear waste than mining for coking coal for 30 years or so!