Pulling to the left by acceleration...
Pulling to the left by acceleration...
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FredoMusicman

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50 posts

66 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Hi all,

Since I got my DB9.2 (3months now) she pulls to the left at the acceleration after 1/4 second (on flat road), and comes directly back to the right by raising the foot. From 40-50mls/70-80kmh on it starts. At 90mls/130kmh it's an issue, I have to correct the steering.
Without acceleration, or by braking she seems to stay straight.
I already did a Geo, it's not better. My Mec. checked the rubbers, bush, silent blocks, cradle fixation and other things under the body, but found no play anywhere.
His pretty safe that it might be the tyres. They are from 2016 on the front and 2014 at the rear, otherwise in good shape. Pirelly P Zero (MY 2013).
I will go to the Michelin 4s. So another profile and have to change all 4. The age for the rears is here. But I'm not completly sure that tyres alone could do this...

What is your opinion on this ?
Thanks a lot !

LMV600

57 posts

218 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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I have come across this symptom on V8V , same running gear , and it was the rear lower arm bushes .

Carefully check these for signs of wear and free play .

Hope this helps and keep us updated on your findings.

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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Thanks LMV, yes I will keep you informed.

Could this be already possible on a 8y 13 000mls/21 000kms Aston ?
They checked 1/2anH the underbody with a lever and found no free play... The bushes are may be not accessible without moving away a part ?

vpr

3,919 posts

265 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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I’ve had this a few times with various cars.

Can be simple as tyre pressures or odd tread depth.

Even one old tyre and one new

HDPete

66 posts

96 months

Monday 15th February 2021
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In my experience, it’s usually down to very delicate tracking and slight differences in PSI. Make sure you find a very well trusted and regarded specialist who understands their equipment and how to tweak it for a (gentleman’s) supercar.

I use Queens Park Garage in Bournemouth and their chap is a superstar on the Hunter equipment. Has sorted my RS6 and AMs several times.

LMV600

57 posts

218 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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OP , at that mileage it would certainly be unlikely . As other's have said tyres maybe the issue , do you have odd tyres across the axles , or ones that have differing tread depths ?

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Tuesday 16th February 2021
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As checked with a lever by the best supercar Mec. in my Region (North-east of France) and the low mileage/age, the problem would anyway comes from the tyres according to your experiences. I was afraid it could be worse..
I will check the tread depths of all four. Same age on each axle. And make a very fine pressure on each and test drive.
And if not better, I will order him the Michelin tyres, and during the intervention I will ask him to check again the rear lower arm bushes.
I will keep you informed !
Thanks for your help !

Fullmel

146 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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Sounds like the rear tyres.

Graze01

1,164 posts

119 months

Thursday 18th February 2021
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I had this exact problem but on my '65 TR4 which has 180Bhp motor

I thought the diff was out of alignment but it turned out to be the "U" brackets holding the rear axle were deflecting under load (power on / power off) and causing the rear to steer the car

new high tensile bolts & sorted

so while it does not apply to your car I suspect there is something which is moving under load on one side of the car causing the problem - someone said bushes in an earlier thread

I'd be checking everything in the rear drivetrain

Please let us know when you sort it

Graeme

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Fullmel said:
Sounds like the rear tyres.
And these are also the oldest.. so..

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Friday 19th February 2021
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Graze01 said:
I had this exact problem but on my '65 TR4 which has 180Bhp motor

I thought the diff was out of alignment but it turned out to be the "U" brackets holding the rear axle were deflecting under load (power on / power off) and causing the rear to steer the car

new high tensile bolts & sorted

so while it does not apply to your car I suspect there is something which is moving under load on one side of the car causing the problem - someone said bushes in an earlier thread

I'd be checking everything in the rear drivetrain

Please let us know when you sort it

Graeme
Thanks for your shared experience. May be they checked not everything, but 1/2h two persons with lever and found nothing..
I made a very fine pressure set, and checked the treads who seemed to be quit exactly the sames. Drive test, and... It's excatly the same issue.. So I will order now the Michelin tyres and will keep you all informed.

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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D-Day tomorrow..

cayman-black

13,259 posts

243 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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As other have said most likely tyres.

EVR

2,231 posts

87 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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FredoMusicman said:
D-Day tomorrow..
Let us know.

BiggaJ

1,252 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I'm with those saying its tyres. I've had enough experience of this issue where a car pulls left or right and it's usually happened after a tyre change where I've moved away from what was fitted by OEM. Usually (and luckily) while driving company cars where I do around 30-40k a year meaning I can get through tyres reasonably quickly compared to most aside that is for my old Lexus IS300H which did 50K on one set. I've had front and rear wheel drive cars of varying makes over the years many of them suffering this issue.

After spending what seemed like hours with tyre fitting and tracking guys it wouldn't solve it then a change of tyre again and the problem is fixed.

It usually involves a lot of head scratching and changes to set up only for it to rectify itself!! most annoying and unexplainable.

Hope it goes well and would be interested to hear what is causing it.

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Yes I read things about Tyre-pulling. From the origin. "Normaly" they should be tested before mounting.. Let's see this evening (frenchtime) if resolved or not...

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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So now i'm a happy man ! 8-)
Since the new Michelin instead of 2014 and 2016 Pirelli, today:
More comfort, better responding, more smooth, straight, and.... no pulling left at all ! so it was indeed the rear tyres ! He saw by demounting that the tyres were almost dry on the flanks under presure from demounting.

I feel integral with my car now. What was not completely the case before.. What a supercar !
DOT front 06 20 and rear 48 20.

So as an experience for others also, and thanks again for your ideas !

The only thing, those tyres don't have the bead protecting the rim, and they don't look sportiest as the dedicated Pirelli. But the car is beautiful enough to cover this ! :-)

Edited by FredoMusicman on Wednesday 10th March 18:56

cayman-black

13,259 posts

243 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Good news!

vpr

3,919 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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As I predicted

Good work. Pleased it’s sorted.

Dodgy tyres can cause lots of strange issues.

The first time i encountered pulling left under power was 20 yrs ago in a V12 Etype despite all tyres looking good

FredoMusicman

Original Poster:

50 posts

66 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Yes good news ! And indeed the tyres do so much on a car. All my 7 cars have Michelin now ;-).
A pitty that otherwise the tyres were really not used and good looking, a pitty also for the fronts I had to change to have everywhere the same brand and profil. But it was worth to do it, it's a most better car now.