Princess Latifa
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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This seems to be all over bbc news.

Pretty wild story about Princess kept captive by ruler/father in UAE palatial home allegedly in “solitary confinement” after she tried to escape on yacht with her mate Tiina but intercepted by Indian special forces near GOA and returned to UAE

Raab says he’s concerned and the UN are apparently involved. Obviously everyone is treading carefully because everyone needs the UAE onside and she’s not even a British national.

Princess Latifa: The Dubai ruler's daughter who vanished https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-56085...

Is this anything to do with the U.K. at all? Should we be getting involved?

Not sure what to make of it all tbh,



Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 17th February 10:46

Biker 1

8,415 posts

143 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Who really cares about an alleged criminal case in another country? Don't the BEEB have better things to do, such as scaring Karen about covid?

pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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El stovey said:
Obviously everyone is treading carefully because everyone needs the UAE onside
Do they? No one *needs* them, but they do need / want what others provide them.

Plus it'd be funny to see Sheikh Mohammed be told he's persona non grata and won't be getting to go to the racing any more, or visit the houses or horses, or have a chat with the Queen. And that his family aren't welcome either to visit or go to Sandhurst or whatever.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Biker 1 said:
Who really cares about an alleged criminal case in another country? Don't the BEEB have better things to do, such as scaring Karen about covid?
I was surprised by the coverage myself. I was wondering if there was some U.K. connection or significance I was missing or something?

Maybe it’s the whole captive princess failed escape fairytale/Disney/Star Wars angle?

Our escaped royals seem to be doing better than the UAE ones though. hehe

MrBarry123

6,091 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I have to agree with Biker 1 in that I really couldn’t care less.

Whilst I’m sure it’s upsetting for her, there are far more important stories out there and I don’t think it’s appropriate for the BBC to feature it as heavily as they are.

pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Biker 1 said:
Who really cares about an alleged criminal case in another country?
I seem to remember Shamsa was abducted in the UK.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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pquinn said:
El stovey said:
Obviously everyone is treading carefully because everyone needs the UAE onside
Do they? No one *needs* them, but they do need / want what others provide them.

Plus it'd be funny to see Sheikh Mohammed be told he's persona non grata and won't be getting to go to the racing any more, or visit the houses or horses, or have a chat with the Queen. And that his family aren't welcome either to visit or go to Sandhurst or whatever.
Maybe that’s the U.K. bbc interest then? Sheikh Mohammed’s U.K. connections. I suppose he’s pretty well known in some U.K. circles.

Richard-390a0

3,296 posts

115 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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There was a programme about her escape at the time including some self shot footage... Possibly on the Beeb hence their interest in it now.

Truckosaurus

12,941 posts

308 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I think most Royal Families have a history of locking up family members with mental health issues, it's just most other countries stopped doing it in the Victorian era.

The western world needs to keep calling out these backwards places that try to present themselves as modern members of the civilised world but keep failing at it, such as the footage this week of some sheik not shaking hands with the female referees at a football tournament.

Disastrous

10,202 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Biker 1 said:
Who really cares about an alleged criminal case in another country?
I would say that lots of people do, albeit perhaps rather obliquely.

Whilst I've obviously never met the woman in question, I suppose I'm not especially comfortable with a lot of what is reported about countries we trade with, holiday in etc etc.

The world is a tiny place and we live in a globalised society so I don't think it's unreasonable to care at least a bit about 'bad things' that might be happening in it.

The journalist butchered in the Turkish embassy - Jamal Khashoggi - attracted a lot of press attention as it was a fairly high profile example of a nation we are relatively close to behaving in a way we find pretty abhorrent.

I don't really get the "Foreign country, none of my business, don't care' attitude tbh.

I mean, I've read Mill and understand the concepts of moral relativism and so on but I don't think it's unreasonable to be interested/care/have an opinion on what goes on around us.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

267 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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pquinn said:
Biker 1 said:
Who really cares about an alleged criminal case in another country?
I seem to remember Shamsa was abducted in the UK.
I was just going to mention that there is history here with her sister being plucked out of Cambridge and bundled onto a private jet out of the country!

Blue62

10,306 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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How does this turn into a BBC bashing thread, with amateur editors commenting on editorial policy? It’s reported very widely in the media, a princess went missing and has now turned up, she was abducted. I would say any missing/abduction story is fairly big news, even more so when it’s a princess.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Disastrous said:
I mean, I've read Mill and understand the concepts of moral relativism and so on.
This is pistonheads.

I was actually wondering if the dusty princess and Tiina were lesbian lovers and you’re raising the bar and talking about moral relativism.

anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Blue62 said:
How does this turn into a BBC bashing thread, with amateur editors commenting on editorial policy? It’s reported very widely in the media, a princess went missing and has now turned up, she was abducted. I would say any missing/abduction story is fairly big news, even more so when it’s a princess.
I’m not sure anyone is bashing the bbc. I was just surprised it’s such a big story. I think the bbc is great, I was just wondering if I was missing the significance and particularly the U.K. connection etc.

Disastrous

10,202 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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El stovey said:
Disastrous said:
I mean, I've read Mill and understand the concepts of moral relativism and so on.
This is pistonheads.

I was actually wondering if the dusty princess and Tiina were lesbian lovers and you’re raising the bar and talking about moral relativism.
hehe Quite right. "Phwoaaar, get in. I'd Burj her Khalifa etc etc"


anonymous-user

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78 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Disastrous said:
El stovey said:
Disastrous said:
I mean, I've read Mill and understand the concepts of moral relativism and so on.
This is pistonheads.

I was actually wondering if the dusty princess and Tiina were lesbian lovers and you’re raising the bar and talking about moral relativism.
hehe Quite right. "Phwoaaar, get in. I'd Burj her Khalifa etc etc"
hehe

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
I think most Royal Families have a history of locking up family members with mental health issues, it's just most other countries stopped doing it in the Victorian era.

The western world needs to keep calling out these backwards places that try to present themselves as modern members of the civilised world but keep failing at it, such as the footage this week of some sheik not shaking hands with the female referees at a football tournament.
Spot on! These places are basically despotic regimes with a very thin veneer of respectability. We should not be enabling their disgraceful behaviour. The sole reason we do is because they have st loads of oil. These places are not progressive forward thinking societies, a statement which will be bourne out when all vehicles move to non-oil derived fuels and they will be back to living in tents and herding camels.

FourWheelDrift

91,916 posts

308 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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He has history of doing this kind of thing, her sister was kidnapped from the UK after she had escaped and brought back to the UAE in 2000, court cases here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamsa_bint_Mohammed...

His wife and other children fled to Germany seeking political asylum and then to the UK, court cases here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haya_bint_Hussein - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_bin_Rashid_...

So with 2 UK based court cases already against him it's no wonder Raab has said what he's said.

Eric Mc

124,926 posts

289 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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El stovey said:
Maybe that’s the U.K. bbc interest then? Sheikh Mohammed’s U.K. connections. I suppose he’s pretty well known in some U.K. circles.
He is a very important person in the world of UK and Irish horse racing.

Randy Winkman

20,994 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I think it's a big story because it's not just about her. It's about the fact that all over the globe large swathes of the population get treated like second class citizens while the rest of us just bury our heads and pretend we don't know.