Have I been unlucky or is it more age related?
Have I been unlucky or is it more age related?
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Daston

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6,126 posts

226 months

Monday 22nd February 2021
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Hey guys,

So far in my hunt for a 997.2S I have had 2 cars inspected. One was an inspection I arranged and unfortunately the car had a number of issues that would need fixing sooner rather than later plus potential engine issues (oil leak and coolant leak with lumpy idle). The 2nd car was inspected by a specialist as they were looking to buy it for stock and that too had a lumpy idle and signs of scoring on one one of the cylinders which caused them to walk away.

Both cars were below average miles. Just got me thinking is there more to it than this? Or is it just pure pot luck?


STiG911

1,210 posts

190 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Difficult to give an accurate judgement on those cars without more knowledge of their Service / MOT history, etc. but when you bear in mind that even the youngest gen 1 997 is now 13 years old, cars with lower than average miles are likely to have suffered from having stood unused for extended periods and / or driven for short journeys. Neither of which are good for any car, especially a sports car.

The first car sounded bad, but the second may have been rejected unfairly if the bore scoring was light and only on one cylinder - a lumpy idle may have just been old spark plugs, or one or more duff coil packs, (which are considered a service item anyway) and a good way to barter the price down. Many 997s are likely to be on their second or even third set of coil packs by now given their exposure.

Keep looking - my view is this was bad luck and there are plenty more cars out there.


dbroughton

304 posts

237 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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Interesting to hear as the market perception is the gen 2 997 (and 987) DFI engines are essentially bullet proof with borescore, IMS etc etc all finally sorted. The gen 2 cars are not old either but decidedly middle aged.

nunpuncher

3,704 posts

148 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2021
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I'm going to say it's age related.

There are definitely bad cars out there but I don't think I've heard of anyone having an older Porsche inspected and it coming back with nothing. The key is being able to know when to walk and when to accept the issues possibly as a point of negotiation or the reason why it was perhaps priced well.

As for the bore scoring on a 997.2. There have been a few on rennlist that have needed rebuilds due to this. Could be a few unlucky cars or might be something that's going to become an issue as the .2s age.

Daston

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6,126 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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STiG911 said:
Difficult to give an accurate judgement on those cars without more knowledge of their Service / MOT history, etc. but when you bear in mind that even the youngest gen 1 997 is now 13 years old, cars with lower than average miles are likely to have suffered from having stood unused for extended periods and / or driven for short journeys. Neither of which are good for any car, especially a sports car.

The first car sounded bad, but the second may have been rejected unfairly if the bore scoring was light and only on one cylinder - a lumpy idle may have just been old spark plugs, or one or more duff coil packs, (which are considered a service item anyway) and a good way to barter the price down. Many 997s are likely to be on their second or even third set of coil packs by now given their exposure.

Keep looking - my view is this was bad luck and there are plenty more cars out there.
The first car had a 5 year gap in service history as it lived a while in europe.

The 2nd car had full service history. Maybe as you say the dealership were being a bit fussy or worried by future warranty work so decided not to buy.

There seems to be few that are what I consider sensible money. As some dealers are now pricing them higher or ewual to 997.1 Turbo money