Tyres.. again
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LordFlathead

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9,646 posts

288 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Hi guys my 18 plate ZZR14 is only really used for the odd weekend and has now racked up 3700 miles. The rear is gone and I want to swap out the front which seems to have 50% left in it (I usually swap them as a pair then ebay the front as a part worn). The bike is running stock BT 023's and they suit my riding needs for limited touring of around 1000 miles a year.

I'm half tempted to just throw another set on but I wondered if anyone has had similar experience and gone for something different? I don't want a super grippy race style band that will last 1500 miles but am looking for something in-between. The zed is big n heavy and the torque dramatically increases wear but other than that I cannot find fault in the bike as an all rounder. Any suggestions on where to buy for a deal?

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trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Bridgestone T31

Michelin PR5 or slightly left field PR2 which is still a good tyre despite being around for quite a few years.


LordFlathead

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9,646 posts

288 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I saw the review for the T31 and they look good but on a heavy bike? Have you tried them and what bike are you riding?

SBDJ

1,333 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Having run plenty of pairs tyres on my ZZR1400 I wouldn't worry too much about the weight tbh. If you're after something with decent wear, grip and all weather capability then I'd pick the PR5. I've also used Angel GT2, Roadtec 01 and Angel GT2 without issue. I had less success with Avons; they disintegrated in the centre.

LordFlathead

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Wednesday 24th February 2021
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SBDJ said:
Having run plenty of pairs tyres on my ZZR1400 I wouldn't worry too much about the weight tbh. If you're after something with decent wear, grip and all weather capability then I'd pick the PR5. I've also used Angel GT2, Roadtec 01 and Angel GT2 without issue. I had less success with Avons; they disintegrated in the centre.
Also heard good things about the PR4's and 5's. The BT023 are very old tyre tech hence the reason for this post. The T32 is not available as a GT in the size I need 170/50/17-73. The PR 5 is.

So far one vote each. I'm no street racer but I do enjoy the torque coming out of the bends.. what mileage do you get with the PR5's?

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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I ran my!K1300S on PR5s and thought they were great. Better than the Roadtec 01. I now have PR5s on my H2 SX. Again I'm very happy with them.

LordFlathead

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Wednesday 24th February 2021
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black-k1 said:
I ran my!K1300S on PR5s and thought they were great. Better than the Roadtec 01. I now have PR5s on my H2 SX. Again I'm very happy with them.
Awesome thanks! Looking for the best deal on PR5's now then. Any pointers for dealers? I will fit them myself thanks to the wonderful Skylift which is simply awesome smile


ash reynolds

472 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Metzeler Roadtec 01SE's are intended for heavier more powerful bikes I believe. Isn't there also a PR5 carcass for heavier bikes as well? A GT variant or something?

Tardigrade

147 posts

90 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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LordFlathead said:
the wonderful Skylift which is simply awesome smile
Yes, they're brilliant. You might've already done this, but it's worth buying the adaptor pegs to allow swing-arm removal.

Jazoli

9,679 posts

280 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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LordFlathead said:
Awesome thanks! Looking for the best deal on PR5's now then. Any pointers for dealers? I will fit them myself thanks to the wonderful Skylift which is simply awesome smile

Lift look awesome but shouldn't the strap go around the swingarm/bobbin?

Edited by Jazoli on Thursday 25th February 07:42

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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LordFlathead said:
black-k1 said:
I ran my!K1300S on PR5s and thought they were great. Better than the Roadtec 01. I now have PR5s on my H2 SX. Again I'm very happy with them.
Awesome thanks! Looking for the best deal on PR5's now then. Any pointers for dealers? I will fit them myself thanks to the wonderful Skylift which is simply awesome smile

That Sky-lift looks great.

My tyres have been supplied and fitted (using their ride-in ride-out service) by FWR Tyres I've always had good service from them and their prices are competitive.

Drawweight

3,611 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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I put PR5 GT’s on my Sprint which is quite a heave of bus and I’m really pleased with them.

Mind you that’s coming from the OE Bridgestones which were the most evil handling tyres known to man.

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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On the PR?GT question, I had some of the first batch of PR4s on my K1300S (before the PR4GT was available.) I had some minor issues with "movement" as I got towards the edge of the tyre. Nothing serious but not something I felt completely comfortable with. I was advised to contact Michelin about this and did. Michelin came back and said that if using the non-GT tyre on a heavier bike then adding an extra 2 to 3 psi would address any issues. I did this and didn't have any subsequent issues.

LordFlathead

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288 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Tardigrade said:
Yes, they're brilliant. You might've already done this, but it's worth buying the adaptor pegs to allow swing-arm removal.
Yes I'm looking at those along with the complete adaptor kit so I can do my other bikes too.

Jazoli said:
Lift look awesome but shouldn't the strap go around the swingarm/bobbin?
It does. It's just the supplied strap is so long I've coiled it around the strap. I don't use this anymore, I've fabricated a 5mm plate which holds the bobbin to the frame. Surprised they don't make them already.

black-k1 said:
That Sky-lift looks great.

My tyres have been supplied and fitted (using their ride-in ride-out service) by FWR Tyres I've always had good service from them and their prices are competitive.
Ah I will bear these in mind! Prices look very good. I pulled the trigger on a rear from ebay, one left in stock. Got it for £145 delivered which is fantastic. Will probably get the front from them as its £119 which looks to be a good deal. I love shopping around for tyres smile



Thanks for the info guys I really appreciate it.

Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Is Pilot Road 5 and Road 5 the same thing?

LordFlathead

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Thursday 25th February 2021
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Iminquarantine said:
Is Pilot Road 5 and Road 5 the same thing?
Apparently


Bob_Defly

5,906 posts

261 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Road 5's are an amazing tyre.

airsafari87

3,307 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Iminquarantine said:
Is Pilot Road 5 and Road 5 the same thing?
Road 5's and Pilot Road 5's are the same tyre.

The 'Pilot' bit has been dropped from the name now but some people still refer to them as Pilot Road 5's.

And to further confuse things Michelin also do a different tyre called a Power 5 which people get confused with the Road 5 too.

Cluster f......


Iminquarantine

2,168 posts

74 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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airsafari87 said:
Iminquarantine said:
Is Pilot Road 5 and Road 5 the same thing?
Road 5's and Pilot Road 5's are the same tyre.

The 'Pilot' bit has been dropped from the name now but some people still refer to them as Pilot Road 5's.

And to further confuse things Michelin also do a different tyre called a Power 5 which people get confused with the Road 5 too.

Cluster f......
Even more confusing.... Michelin do a Pilot Power!