What is going on with this bike ??

[Jack.77]

Just bought a cheap 125 scooter project.(sold as non runner with v5)
I’m a bit confused as After looking at the mot history it appears to have done no miles since the 2019 mot and had no advisories and the clocks also seems to be working fine ??
The first thing I noticed there is no battery in it so going to try a new one and see what happens .general condition of tyres shock absorbers etc not great so it’s hard to believe how there would be no advisories .its unlikely to be stolen as got the correct v5 and checked all the numbers

[Jazoli]

A lot of 125 scooters have dubious backgrounds and are owned by people with the mechanical ability of a lettuce, the speedo isn't checked for the mot so it wouldn't necessarily fail for the lack of a working one (which would of course stop the odometer working)

Edited by Jazoli on Monday 1st March 22:08

[Jack.77]

Jazoli said:

A lot of 125 scooters have dubious backgrounds and are owned by people with the mechanical ability of a lettuce, the speedo isn't checked for the mot so it wouldn't necessarily fail for the lack of a working one (which would of course stop the odometer working)

Edited by Jazoli on Monday 1st March 22:08

That’s definitely true about some 125 owners .I’d guess looking at the history that the odometer works fine and the chap took it for an mot on his trailer which could explain mileage but then why does he then take battery out and sell it for spares a year later..looks like there is fair chance it will run with the battery but i suspect it’s not that simple .

[trickywoo]

Another Chinese one?

Brave unless the last one somehow worked out for you.

[Jack.77]

trickywoo said:

Another Chinese one?

Brave unless the last one somehow worked out for you.

Haha yes the last one was a Chinese based engine but far better build quality than first thought but still nothing compared to Japanese
This other one is Italian made aprilla before Piaggio took them over .seems a rare bike actually not many on them left anymore

[Jack.77]

Have just started tinkering with the new bike ...after trying a new battery which I know is fine and checking fuse still got no electrics coming on .all wires look to be there and not broken ,
Can’t figure out what happened to the bike .apparently it ran before it was stored for a while .at a guess 6 months looking at mot’s

[Pothole]

Jack.77 said:

Have just started tinkering with the new bike ...after trying a new battery which I know is fine and checking fuse still got no electrics coming on .all wires look to be there and not broken ,
Can’t figure out what happened to the bike .apparently it ran before it was stored for a while .at a guess 6 months looking at mot’s

Does it have an ECU? My lad's PGO scooter has one slightly bigger than a regular relay. If that's stuffed, might it stop anything from working?

[Jack.77]

I don’t think it has an ecu but could be wrong.
Have just tried to open main fuse box but it seems to be sealed shut .this wire is also broken which joins to main battery lead .not sure if it would stop it turning on though?

[Jack.77]

[Jack.77]

Also just to add all fuses have now been checked and ok .ecu ok .
But still no electrics coming on .any thoughts please

[tight fart]

I’d try selling it as a none runner, unused since passing its mot?

[Jazoli]

tight fart said:

I’d try selling it as a none runner, unused since passing its mot?

+1 then buy a Japanese scooter.

[Jack.77]

Jazoli said:

+1 then buy a Japanese scooter.

It is a japanese / Italian made bike . covers no mileage since passing mot with no advisories even though the tyres look at least 10 yrs old and various other faults .must have been a dodgey mot place to Put that through

[Jack.77]

[Jack.77]

Now got electrics sorted and new battery .went to start the bike and just makes a chugging type sound and lights flutter .also tried easy start in air box .any ideas ? Spark plug also fine and engine got compression

[carinaman]

How old is the petrol in it? Is it getting fuel at the carb?

[Jack.77]

carinaman said:

How old is the petrol in it? Is it getting fuel at the carb?

New ish petrol in there and should go (but could be worth doing anyway)
It’s a slow chugging sound and engages with starting system but engine doesn’t go.seems as though it might be duff starter motor or ignition switch

[Jack.77]

Also tried it on the button for a bit longer to try and get fuel into it .smoke now comes out of starter motor but flywheel etc turning

[carinaman]

Sounds like you'll have to remove the starter motor and see if the flywheel will turn.

[Jack.77]

It did splutter a bit and nearly goes .i think the solenoid needs replacing next as it just clicks now and didn’t do that before.the starter motor seems to be doing its job ok