Protection money
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Thankyou4calling

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10,971 posts

202 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Is it still a thing?

I know the Krays would look after your shop and make sure any scallywaggs were seen off back in the 60’s but does it still happen?

I’ve heard of ice cream rounds and window cleaners doing stuff to protect there territory too.

Has anyone an opinion or experience of such things?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Yes.


105.4

4,214 posts

100 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Thankyou4calling said:
Is it still a thing?
Yes. Very much so.

bucksmanuk

2,426 posts

199 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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All sorts of things of areas of commerce are subject to it
Just ask around your local area

red_slr

20,700 posts

218 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Round here it was mostly an issue for the pubs. Most of them are long gone, so I think as a rule its not really a thing any more like it was in the 80s and 90s.

Also a few of the more well known gangs actually set up their own legit security companies about 20 years ago and made more money by being legit! One of the biggest security companies round here is still going and thats exactly where they came from 30ish years ago.

In addition the whole thing was based on targetting cash businesses, and frankly they are also a thing of the past really.

Wilmslowboy

4,764 posts

235 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Perhaps not...but strange same restaurant catches fire often...




Trevor555

5,418 posts

113 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Sort of relative to the thread title.

The residents of Frinton.

They pay a private security company to patrol the streets, or at least they did at one point.

rambo19

2,953 posts

166 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Thankyou4calling said:
Is it still a thing?

I know the Krays would look after your shop and make sure any scallywaggs were seen off back in the 60’s but does it still happen?

I’ve heard of ice cream rounds and window cleaners doing stuff to protect there territory too.

Has anyone an opinion or experience of such things?
The Krays were the scallywags, took money off people with fear of violence.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

215 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Tattoo places often get a shakedown from a certain biker gang around here.

Wiry PAYE

329 posts

135 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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dudleybloke said:
Tattoo places often get a shakedown from a certain biker gang around here.
Black widows?

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

112 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Thankyou4calling said:
I know the Krays would look after your shop and make sure any scallywaggs were seen off back in the 60’s but does it still happen?
That isn't how it works. You don't pay to protect your business from other people, you pay to protect it from them. The people who romanticise the Krays as these classy common hardcases that protected their community are either delusional or just don't know that they were the lowest form of scum. A couple of classless bullies that terrorised their community and spent their time raping young boys and girls. Thankfully they're both long since in the ground where they belong

frisbee

5,597 posts

139 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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This scruffy looking fellow is currently paying lots of places to not open or he'll send the boys around to sort them out.

I'm not sure he's quite got the idea of the whole protection racket thing yet.

anonymoususer

8,443 posts

77 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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frisbee said:
This scruffy looking fellow is currently paying lots of places to not open or he'll send the boys around to sort them out.

I'm not sure he's quite got the idea of the whole protection racket thing yet.
Eh ?

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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frisbee said:
This scruffy looking fellow is currently paying lots of places to not open or he'll send the boys around to sort them out.

I'm not sure he's quite got the idea of the whole protection racket thing yet.
hehe

Not sure he's heard of protection in general

rayny

2,348 posts

230 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Kilkerran said:
frisbee said:
This scruffy looking fellow is currently paying lots of places to not open or he'll send the boys around to sort them out.

I'm not sure he's quite got the idea of the whole protection racket thing yet.
hehe

Not sure he's heard of protection in general
It seems that protection failed on at least 6 occassions:
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&a...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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aaron_2000 said:
That isn't how it works. You don't pay to protect your business from other people, you pay to protect it from them. The people who romanticise the Krays as these classy common hardcases that protected their community are either delusional or just don't know that they were the lowest form of scum. A couple of classless bullies that terrorised their community and spent their time raping young boys and girls. Thankfully they're both long since in the ground where they belong
The Krays were cowards.

My grandfather lived in the area for decades before the WW2 & a bit before WW1 as it happens and also for another decade or two after WW2.

They were scum
They were weak
They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War.
They were not loved
They were thugs who prayed on people were extreme violence.
No one liked them - it was dead of reprisal that people made out they liked them.

Good riddance to them and all their ilk

anonymoususer

8,443 posts

77 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Welshbeef said:
The Krays were cowards.

My grandfather lived in the area for decades before the WW2 & a bit before WW1 as it happens and also for another decade or two after WW2.

They were scum
They were weak
They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War.
They were not loved
They were thugs who prayed on people were extreme violence.
No one liked them - it was dead of reprisal that people made out they liked them.

Good riddance to them and all their ilk
I dont usually pick at posts and I generally like yours but
"They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War. "
They were only 6 when war broke out and 12 when it finished

Cheib

25,372 posts

204 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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Trevor555 said:
Sort of relative to the thread title.

The residents of Frinton.

They pay a private security company to patrol the streets, or at least they did at one point.
Quite common in London now...a few of the streets in St John’s Wood/Primrose Hill area have private security guards driving up and down at night. When you have enough cash to have a £10mil+ house and you club together with 40 or 50 other households it’s really not that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

I used to live on the road next door...when my M3 had two wheels nicked off it I then used it park it on the road where the security guards were biggrin


Edited by Cheib on Monday 8th March 22:25

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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anonymoususer said:
Welshbeef said:
The Krays were cowards.

My grandfather lived in the area for decades before the WW2 & a bit before WW1 as it happens and also for another decade or two after WW2.

They were scum
They were weak
They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War.
They were not loved
They were thugs who prayed on people were extreme violence.
No one liked them - it was dead of reprisal that people made out they liked them.

Good riddance to them and all their ilk
I dont usually pick at posts and I generally like yours but
"They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War. "
They were only 6 when war broke out and 12 when it finished
laugh

mikey_b

2,687 posts

74 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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anonymoususer said:
I dont usually pick at posts and I generally like yours but
"They were so cowardly they couldn’t go to the front line in the War. "
They were only 6 when war broke out and 12 when it finished
I think it’s quite well known that they refused to do national service and were jailed instead, and continued to act like absolute scum then, too. And of course there was Korea around that time, that the army was involved in. WW2 isn’t the only war in history.