Egg on their Faces
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sutoka

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4,716 posts

132 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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And flour in the cupboard, along with £64k in cash.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/new...

This story isn't too far from me, it's a council estate in the middle of a fairly decent area. How can police test the flour and it tests negative but still arrest and charge a person with possession with intent to supply MDMA . They are then hold them for 4 weeks on remand, it goes to court twice and bail rejected. PPS must have seen the negative result so why proceed.

Maybe some legal eagles would be able to shed more light on this but surely any lawyer worth their salt would have get this dropped before it even got to court. Some of the interview transcripts were in the local paper and it's fairly hilarious

Also the couples house was attacked by local vigilantes and the name of their son sprayed on the side of my local cornershop ' Mr X is a drug dealing scumbag'

All over a bag of bloody flour.

matjk

1,112 posts

164 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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There will probably be more to this, the police didn’t just raid a random house find someone floor and think they got lucky and found bags of MDMA .
Actually if you are a drug dealer could be a clever trick,
Hide fake drugs in an obvious place, hope the police find them and give up looking for more, get your mate to pop round after the police leave and remove the stash.
Wait for your compo claim to come in for false arrest smile

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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5 kilo of flour. i wonder if it was wrapped in bags and foil?

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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matjk said:
There will probably be more to this, the police didn’t just raid a random house find someone floor and think they got lucky and found bags of MDMA .
Actually if you are a drug dealer could be a clever trick,
Hide fake drugs in an obvious place, hope the police find them and give up looking for more, get your mate to pop round after the police leave and remove the stash.
Wait for your compo claim to come in for false arrest smile
Having an "easy find" for cops is a very common trick already. Most will know to be thorough.

Greendubber

14,868 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I'm sure its exactly as stated in the report laugh

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

137 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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If the flour was cut into lots of deal bags it would probably look suspicious!

Keeping £64k in the cupboard is also suspicious.

Cant imagine the UDA would just smash up a randoms house without some of their own evidence.

I imagine they were just lucky they didnt have any drugs at the time.

FourWheelDrift

91,916 posts

308 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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350 drug addicts now suing them for flour addiction.

Chris32345

2,139 posts

86 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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More going on then the story in the article


Police don't just randomly raid sombodys house

eldar

24,902 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Probably need to explain why £64,000 was stashed in a cupboard. Just resting there not likely to be a good enough without an audit trail.

Forensic accountants beavering away?

Murph7355

40,913 posts

280 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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FourWheelDrift said:
350 drug addicts now suing them for flour addiction.
There's an Irish joke in here somewhere about making lots of bread from drugs smile

Drumroll

4,377 posts

144 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Chris32345 said:
More going on then the story in the article


Police don't just randomly raid sombodys house
Sometimes they do. They will often act on "tip off's" some of which are malicious. ("I don't like my neighbour so I will make up stuff out about them)

Sometimes there is just a genuine mistake, the wrong number of a house given.


eldar

24,902 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Drumroll said:
Sometimes they do. They will often act on "tip off's" some of which are malicious. ("I don't like my neighbour so I will make up stuff out about them)

Sometimes there is just a genuine mistake, the wrong number of a house given.
Happened to someone at work some years ago. Early morning raid, at the address on the search warrant, surprise the suspect wasn't there.

The wrong house number had been used when preparing the documentation. Oops.

stackmonkey

5,083 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Murph7355 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
350 drug addicts now suing them for flour addiction.
There's an Irish joke in here somewhere about making lots of bread from drugs smile
Dough! (or an American one..)

Earthdweller

17,974 posts

150 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Well, I suppose half a story is better than no story ... or is it?

Police don’t randomly enter people’s kitchens and seize bags of flour

Flour is regularly cut with controlled substances to bulk up

Any items seized would have to be sent for forensic examination and it can take weeks for a result to be returned

Remand in custody has to be justified to a Court, and evidence provided as to why the person cannot be free whilst the investigation is ongoing





Earthdweller

17,974 posts

150 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Drumroll said:
Chris32345 said:
More going on then the story in the article


Police don't just randomly raid sombodys house
Sometimes they do. They will often act on "tip off's" some of which are malicious. ("I don't like my neighbour so I will make up stuff out about them)

Sometimes there is just a genuine mistake, the wrong number of a house given.
A single “tip off” from an unverified, uncorroborated and untested source is not and has never been sufficient to obtain a search warrant from a magistrate


Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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eldar said:
Drumroll said:
Sometimes they do. They will often act on "tip off's" some of which are malicious. ("I don't like my neighbour so I will make up stuff out about them)

Sometimes there is just a genuine mistake, the wrong number of a house given.
Happened to someone at work some years ago. Early morning raid, at the address on the search warrant, surprise the suspect wasn't there.

The wrong house number had been used when preparing the documentation. Oops.
Right, but that was down to error, not because someone said your mate was dealing.

Camoradi

4,831 posts

280 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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eldar said:
Probably need to explain why £64,000 was stashed in a cupboard. Just resting there not likely to be a good enough without an audit trail.

Forensic accountants beavering away?
That is the $64,000 question

Zoobeef

6,004 posts

182 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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I want to know what they needed £50k of flour for.

Rod200SX

8,170 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Zoobeef said:
I want to know what they needed £50k of flour for.
Good investment, not seen the stocks? They're self raising.

NikBartlett

698 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th March 2021
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Maybe they were Fields of the Nephilim fans laugh