Private Pension - Non Earner
Private Pension - Non Earner
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irc

Original Poster:

9,797 posts

165 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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My wife has stopped working this year due to ill health. Currently has no income but has a few thousand in an ISA. Aged over 55.

I understand that non earners can still pay £2,880 per year into a private pension and get tax relief bringing it up to £3500.

So could she do this starting next tax year for say 3 years then cash it in while it was still below her annual tax allowance? Seems like free cash. Or is there rules to prevent this?

Only other relevant bit is that she took a small pension pot (under £10k) as cash this year.

Mazinbrum

1,366 posts

207 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Yes I’m doing this at the moment, it’s actually topped up to £3600.

Boringvolvodriver

11,994 posts

72 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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irc said:
My wife has stopped working this year due to ill health. Currently has no income but has a few thousand in an ISA. Aged over 55.

I understand that non earners can still pay £2,880 per year into a private pension and get tax relief bringing it up to £3500.

So could she do this starting next tax year for say 3 years then cash it in while it was still below her annual tax allowance? Seems like free cash. Or is there rules to prevent this?

Only other relevant bit is that she took a small pension pot (under £10k) as cash this year.
I am still contributing into a private pension whilst drawing on a final salary one. The only thing to remember is that when she comes to take the pension, only 25% will be tax free with the rest being treated as income. So as long as her overall income at that stage is less than the PA, then there should be no tax payable

ellroy

7,834 posts

254 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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There is a rule to prevent ‘recycling’ to some extent, the Money Purchase Annual Allowance, if you’ve taken money out from a Money Purchase scheme you’re then have a much reduced annual amount you can still save, £4,000 instead of the usual £40,000.

Though given the amounts you’re talking about it’s a somewhat moot point.

irc

Original Poster:

9,797 posts

165 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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OK. Thanks all.

konark

1,238 posts

148 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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HMRC are becoming increasingly vigilant about money being taken tax free from pension pots and then recycled back into contributions to claim another 25% top up. The 10k your wife took last year could be used for this in HMRC s eyes. HMRC can levy 40% tax and additional
charges on people who churn their pension pots in this manner.

irc

Original Poster:

9,797 posts

165 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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konark said:
HMRC are becoming increasingly vigilant about money being taken tax free from pension pots and then recycled back into contributions to claim another 25% top up. The 10k your wife took last year could be used for this in HMRC s eyes. HMRC can levy 40% tax and additional
charges on people who churn their pension pots in this manner.
So would it be wise to keep documents showing a withdrawal of say £2750 from her ISA (which predates her pension cash in) being immediatley put into a pension?

In any case her pension she cashed was between £5 and £6k. So according to this link as it is under £7500 the recycling provisions do not apply. But any opinions welcome.

https://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/about-p...

konark

1,238 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Yes, that's a very useful link . It does seem that HMRC are allowing a little recycling for small amounts and as your wife can only put in £2880 p.a with tax relief she is below the threshold at which HMRC show an interest.