Royal mail shares
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egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.

blue_haddock

5,019 posts

96 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Sell half and keep half to hedge your bets?

Countdown

49,349 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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egor110 said:
Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.
I was wondering the same thing.

I assume the record volumes/deliveries will fall back once Lockdown is lifted. The question is - is the current SP based on the current performance or long-term prospects ? i think it's the latter; more and more people are shopping online and RM are in pole position to capitalise from that.

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Countdown said:
egor110 said:
Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.
I was wondering the same thing.

I assume the record volumes/deliveries will fall back once Lockdown is lifted. The question is - is the current SP based on the current performance or long-term prospects ? i think it's the latter; more and more people are shopping online and RM are in pole position to capitalise from that.
I think volume might drop a bit however people aren't going to return to the high street because they've got used to shopping online and shops that existed pre covid have gone bust .

Also the company seem to be recruiting agency staff now rather than employing pt/ft staff , we've still got the agency people we had nov/dec as there's enough work to justify it .

static65

9 posts

161 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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egor110 said:
Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.
Imagine you have just found 6k cash down the back of your sofa, would your first choice be to invest it in Royal Mail above anything else?

If the answer is no, go with the fund.

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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static65 said:
egor110 said:
Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.
Imagine you have just found 6k cash down the back of your sofa, would your first choice be to invest it in Royal Mail above anything else?

If the answer is no, go with the fund.
I probably wouldn't however all the finance pages have changed there advice to buy and hold , citigroup are aiming for 6.35 per share and jp morgan looking at 7.04 per share .

otherman

2,265 posts

194 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Countdown said:
I was wondering the same thing.

I assume the record volumes/deliveries will fall back once Lockdown is lifted. The question is - is the current SP based on the current performance or long-term prospects ? i think it's the latter; more and more people are shopping online and RM are in pole position to capitalise from that.
The thing is, they're nowhere near pole position. They've continually failed to take advantage of the booming parcel market and instead bleated that they struggle because letter volumes have dropped. Other services have come in to take up the exta volume. You can drop parcels off until 11pm, and in some cases 24hours, with the PO you have until 5pm. We have a hermes guy that does a round in a van every day, and others that do bigger stuff when needed.
Meanwhile, the PO have mooted reducing post boxes so only letters can be put in, taking away the last competitive advantage the have. Clueless.
So I wouldn't invest in them.

Skyedriver

23,383 posts

311 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Regularly discuss RM with the posties
Always under pressure, job cuts, extra work, knackered vans, threats of strikes
All of which got me to ditch my RM shares when they were a third of their current price..........................!!!

Mr Pointy

13,352 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Regularly discuss RM with the posties
Always under pressure, job cuts, extra work, knackered vans, threats of strikes
All of which got me to ditch my RM shares when they were a third of their current price..........................!!!
Yep, sold mine at 196p since the price was seemingly heading downwards without any sign of stopping.

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Skyedriver said:
Regularly discuss RM with the posties
Always under pressure, job cuts, extra work, knackered vans, threats of strikes
All of which got me to ditch my RM shares when they were a third of their current price..........................!!!
I am a postie .

Tell me more about the job cuts ?

31 years and there have been no postie job cuts and there won't be any for the next 2 years.

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Did I hear a Royal Mail advert advertising their post boxes as '19,000 drop-off points'? Creative!

I can't speak for the share price but for me RM lost the plot when they introduced all those silly size/weight limitations and then started asking you what was in every package (even if it was only going a few miles in a van). The till system is incredibly slow too, with staff having to type in half a book each time. Hermes just gets on with it.

x5x3

2,437 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Royal Mail will collect a parcel you are sending from your house for as little as 60p - do the others offer that sort of price?

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Did I hear a Royal Mail advert advertising their post boxes as '19,000 drop-off points'? Creative!

I can't speak for the share price but for me RM lost the plot when they introduced all those silly size/weight limitations and then started asking you what was in every package (even if it was only going a few miles in a van). The till system is incredibly slow too, with staff having to type in half a book each time. Hermes just gets on with it.
Aren't the 19 k drop off points the big parcel post boxes ?

So that's the boxes , every single post office or picked up from your doorstep , seems like a pretty wide set of options to me .

vulture1

13,755 posts

208 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Its a covid stock. it will drop on reopening of the country imo

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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x5x3 said:
Royal Mail will collect a parcel you are sending from your house for as little as 60p - do the others offer that sort of price?
I've never heard of that. Do I catch the postie when the letterbox goes clang, rush out and and say 'Whoa hang on mate here's one to go and here's 60p in change'?

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Simpo Two said:
x5x3 said:
Royal Mail will collect a parcel you are sending from your house for as little as 60p - do the others offer that sort of price?
I've never heard of that. Do I catch the postie when the letterbox goes clang, rush out and and say 'Whoa hang on mate here's one to go and here's 60p in change'?
You go online with the dimensions/weight , pay and print out the label then say what day you want it picked up then either the postie bangs on the door or if you leave it on the doorstep they just pick it up .

xx99xx

2,982 posts

102 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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egor110 said:
I am a postie .

Tell me more about the job cuts ?

31 years and there have been no postie job cuts and there won't be any for the next 2 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53175739

"Royal Mail to cut 2000 jobs as virus hits business".

I know a lot were happy to take voluntary redundancy.

tighnamara

2,822 posts

182 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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xx99xx said:
egor110 said:
I am a postie .

Tell me more about the job cuts ?

31 years and there have been no postie job cuts and there won't be any for the next 2 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53175739

"Royal Mail to cut 2000 jobs as virus hits business".

I know a lot were happy to take voluntary redundancy.
Middle management though, not a real Postie doing the rounds

egor110

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17,675 posts

232 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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xx99xx said:
egor110 said:
I am a postie .

Tell me more about the job cuts ?

31 years and there have been no postie job cuts and there won't be any for the next 2 years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53175739

"Royal Mail to cut 2000 jobs as virus hits business".

I know a lot were happy to take voluntary redundancy.
That's management though.

When they closed some mail centers those staff were offered delivery jobs so again nobody was forced out .

48k

17,381 posts

177 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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egor110 said:
Ive got 6k worth of free royal mail shares which I'm thinking of selling and then adding the money to my vanguard world index fund.

Is this a mental idea when royal mail seems to be on the up with record volumes of parcels and Sunday deliveries.
Sell some, keep some. Mrs 48k sold some of hers and kept the rest.
Parcel volume is on the up but RM will always be hamstrung verses its competition by the Universal Service Obligation.