British GP ITV coverage

British GP ITV coverage

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me2

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188 posts

244 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Crap!!!! more ads than racing

Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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What racing?

rushdriver

637 posts

259 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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I agree, the GP just came and went.

Boring, boring, boring..............

John

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949 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Didn't someone in the post-race waffling even concede that it wasn't as exciting as hoped for? Not a good sign.

The FIA really needs to sort out the problem Brundle keeps referring to, and which the new regs have brought about, of cars being unable to follow each other closely. The FIA have seemingly failed in yet another endeavour, namely encouraging close racing and overtaking in F1.

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Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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This has been a problem for years. It's not just down to the most recent aero regs - although they have made matters worse.

Too much downforce being obtained from the front wings.

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Eric Mc said:
This has been a problem for years. It's not just down to the most recent aero regs - although they have made matters worse.



True, but I seem to recall the Silverstone last year had a number of good passing moves in competitive situations.

Appart from Montoya and Alonso 1.5 times (Start and Pit Stop though where you might expect such things) and Villeneuve on Coulthard the only other pass I remember seeing was Raikonnen on Alonso where Alonso hardly defended as Raikkonnen was clearly due a pit stop.

Presumably the lack of blue flags, mentioned by several drivers, was an FIA attempt to induce passing manoeuvres even though positions were not at stake.

richb

51,597 posts

285 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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me2 said:
Crap!!!! more ads than racing
Absolutly, in fact I was certain that they were crammimng in more ad's thanin previous years so I kept a count. Certainly they were going for the 3 min ad' break, during the first 16 laps we actually watched 10 and 6 were "lost" to adds. After this they eased up a little with 4 breaks in total losing 10 laps of the 60 lap race. Of course they went off for another 3 mins' immediatly after the finish. Oh and I agree it was dradfully dull! Rich...

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949 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Eric Mc said:
This has been a problem for years. It's not just down to the most recent aero regs - although they have made matters worse.

Too much downforce being obtained from the front wings.


Agreed. Things have been going wrong for some time now on this front. Casting my mind back to the time of active suspension, widebody cars and full slicks, I don't recall any lack of overtaking back then.

Every change to the rules so far has seemingly brought about a reduction in overtaking rather than any real improvement.

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LancsDriver

242 posts

241 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Just to add, as pointed out by Blundell, its about time the penalties for engine changes go on the contructors points and not penalising drivers, as we would now have a real fight between Kimi and Fernando!.

corozin

2,680 posts

272 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Jeez... where did the concept of motor racing go? Despite posting one of the best qualification times, Kimi is dumped right down the field simply because his engine blows up.

Oh, and the "one set of tyres for the race" rule still applies, despite quite a few drivers being pitched into accidents during the season, whilst at the same time refuelling (which I seem to recall was banned in around 1980 because of pit fires) is mandatory, despite there being a number of serious pit fires in the past 3-4 years whilst refuelling!

F1 is a really upside down form of motor sport. Of course whether you count races where nearly all the overtaking happens either off the startline or in the pits-stops as "sport" is probably debatable too.

John

Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Refuelling was banned after the 1983 season but re-introduced for 1994.

Tyre stops, although never banned outright, fell out of favour with F1 teams in the 1960s and 1970s. They made a comeback in the early 1980s as a means of exploiting the stupendous power available from turbo-charged engines. The first team to try and exploit the advantage of changing tyres mid-race was Brabham which was owned at that time, as most of you will now, by a certain Mr B Ecclestone.

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Sunday 10th July 2005
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Go to the race rather than watching it on TV...

Then you could see racing like this


J

Eric Mc

122,051 posts

266 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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I've heard reports from people who were actually there who agree that the race was rather dull.

Raify

6,552 posts

249 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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richb said:

......After this they eased up a little with 4 breaks in total losing 10 laps of the 60 lap race. ......


joust said:
Go to the race rather than watching it on TV...

Then you could see racing like this


So did all the exciting stuff happen in those 10 laps that weren't on t.v?

tollytuff

991 posts

232 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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i think its fair to say it wasnt a patch on last years, but that was an exceptional race... But being there was great, a really exciting day...

www.test.serve.co.uk/DSCF0152.AVI

www.test.serve.co.uk/DSCF0155.AVI

www.test.serve.co.uk/DSCF0154.AVI

TypeR

1,123 posts

240 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Well I didn't get to see any of it. I set the timer on the Vid but forgot to switch it on!! I need lessons from my 5 year old daughter in Video programming.
Doesn't look like I missed much though........

williamp

19,264 posts

274 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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One thing I did like: the aerial shot over the pits- once they showed the Ferrari entering the pit, on the pit limiter, and another F1 car on the straight at racing speed. The differnce was amazing, and showed the speed far better then the usual camera-at-the-end-of-the-straight picture we normally get.

bobski

1,589 posts

265 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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joust said:
Go to the race rather than watching it on TV...

Then you could see racing like this


J


Isn't that chap in the crowd yawning?

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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Eric Mc said:
I've heard reports from people who were actually there who agree that the race was rather dull.


It was. I was there.

foster3jd

3,773 posts

241 months

Monday 11th July 2005
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I went to Brands Hatch and watched mini racing instead.... loads of overtaking!

Didn't even bother to watch the GP "highlights".