Freddie the Seal killed
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poo at Paul's

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14,557 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14439668/lawyer-dog-...

Normal stuff of it being a non dangerous dog, never done this before, i wish i had had him on a lead.

Left the scene for her own safety....... Nice.

Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 24th March 13:56

pquinn

7,167 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Not nice but the press reaction is massively excessive. Utterly unnecessary to publish so much info on someone over such a relatively small thing.

poo at Paul's

Original Poster:

14,557 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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pquinn said:
Not nice but the press reaction is massively excessive. Utterly unnecessary to publish so much info on someone over such a relatively small thing.
The stories from Monday and yesterday (it happened Sunday) were asking who she was as she left the scene.

Freddie (Mercury) the seal was a well known "celeb" and had been on TV quite a lot. He was being photo'd at the time. So it is quite "public interest" particularly in London.




Edited by poo at Paul's on Wednesday 24th March 14:07

Russ T Bolt

1,726 posts

307 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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pquinn said:
Not nice but the press reaction is massively excessive. Utterly unnecessary to publish so much info on someone over such a relatively small thing.
It isn't a small thing though, some retard who should know better didn't have control of her dog.

It attacked a seal which had to be put down because of the attack.

Completely avoidable, it would also appear she has trouble reading given there were local signs telling people to keep dogs on a lead.


J4CKO

45,967 posts

224 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Would it be that hard to remove the dog ?

I suspect a size ten to the ribs might suffice, but remember my mums little dog getting attacked by another of its lead and my dad battered it and it still didnt want to let go and that wasnt a particularly powerful dog.

Always a worry for me as our dog is fairly small, have had a woman with a Staff she couldnt control trying to get him.

I wouldn't hesitate to use whatever was to hand to make a dog release mine, I can see a rock in the foreground of that picture for example.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

107 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Sad this trusting little visitor that thought he was somewhere safe has met such a demise. It just goes to show the attention people lavish on animals in the wild can end badly.
Guess locals hope house prices round there have not been affected by the fat arsed cows inability to control her dog.
Will be the amusing joke at the dinner parties no doubt.

C.A.R.

3,990 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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J4CKO said:
Would it be that hard to remove the dog ?
According to some sources, the dog also bit two lads who were trying to separate the fight. So no, I imagine kicking it would only encourage it to fight harder.

Dog should be destroyed; it's "lucky" it was a wild animal and not a child.

21TonyK

12,990 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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C.A.R. said:
Dog should be destroyed; it's "lucky" it was a wild animal and not a child.
If the dog is proven to be dangerous then fair enough otherwise rehome it and prosecute the owner who failed to control it.

untakenname

5,273 posts

216 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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She should face repercussions, if it had been a Chav with a Staffie no doubt the law would be thrown at them but as she's a barrister she's got away scot free.

carlove

7,883 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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I remember seeing a staffie attack, and sadly kill a cat. I stopped as did the van coming the other way. Van driver shouted and the dog scarpered. Maybe a firm shout would have worked here? Maybe not? It was a pretty horrible thing to witness, horrible that it’s happened to that seal. frown

Owner of the cat was found and the van driver knocked on doors to find the dog owner, found them and their response to “your dog just killed a cat” was “oh” and a shrug of the shoulders.

The RSPCA came to recover the cat, they took mine and van mans details and rang later to say it had been referred to the police (not the first time that dog had attacked), never heard anything else.

21TonyK

12,990 posts

233 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
A Staffie.

What a fking surprise.
Where did you get it was a Staffie from? Article doesn't say a specific breed?

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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J4CKO said:
Would it be that hard to remove the dog ?
Yes.

jmn

1,128 posts

304 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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There is an old saying that there are no bad dogs, only bad owners.

This particular owner is Queens Counsel, based in London. She instructed Schillings Law in London to try and prevent the publication of her name. I am pleased to say that she failed as her name had already appeared in various news outlets around the World.

Having failed to gag the Press she has now persuaded the London Evening Standard to publish a conciliatory article on her behalf.

105.4

4,214 posts

95 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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J4CKO said:
Would it be that hard to remove the dog ?

I suspect a size ten to the ribs might suffice, but remember my mums little dog getting attacked by another of its lead and my dad battered it and it still didnt want to let go and that wasnt a particularly powerful dog.

Always a worry for me as our dog is fairly small, have had a woman with a Staff she couldnt control trying to get him.

I wouldn't hesitate to use whatever was to hand to make a dog release mine, I can see a rock in the foreground of that picture for example.
Several years ago I came across a guy who had set his pitbull type dog onto a woman’s Labrador whilst she was out walking it with her two young children. I eventually got the Pitbull off of the Labrador by very forcefully shoving several of my fingers deep down the Pitbulls throat.

Sadly it was too late. The Labrador was already dead and the cowardly scumbag ran off whilst I was trying to console the distraught lady and her children.

I reported it to 999 but they put the phone down on me. I then called 101, but they couldn’t have been less interested if they’d tried.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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untakenname said:
She should face repercussions, if it had been a Chav with a Staffie no doubt the law would be thrown at them but as she's a barrister she's got away scot free.
Well... I'm in two minds on this.

Animals are inherently unpredictable, and aside from this being something of a local celebrity animal on animal violence is decidedly commonplace. Cats attack each other regularly (although usually they walk off after a bit), wild animals hunt each other for food... She should be subject to whatever penalties apply in that area for dogs not being on leads when being walked. Freddie's death sadly is on the dog, but not the woman. She should have had that animal on the lead, but as it is not a "dangerous breed" they cannot invent laws to punish her with.

However, it is appalling the number of people that have dogs that are not under absolute control in any kind of situation that they can inflict harm on other things. I'm still having to deal with the aftermath of a dog being dangerously out of control and causing a great deal of suffering to another animal and injury to my partner.

As long as she has done everything that is legally and reasonably expected of her after the attack it is sadly one of those "accidents". If she'd tried to disappear into the abyss without a trace and hidden away then absolutely she should be publicly shamed and flogged, but as long as the "owners" of such animals do the right thing after the attack then the only thing you should morally punish her for is not abiding by the instruction to have the dog on a lead.

105.4

4,214 posts

95 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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untakenname said:
She should face repercussions, if it had been a Chav with a Staffie no doubt the law would be thrown at them but as she's a barrister she's got away scot free.
Bingo !

And there’s the correct answer.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

132 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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jmn said:
This particular owner is Queens Counsel, based in London. She instructed Schillings Law in London to try and prevent the publication of her name. I am pleased to say that she failed as her name had already appeared in various news outlets around the World.

Having failed to gag the Press she has now persuaded the London Evening Standard to publish a conciliatory article on her behalf.
The press have no business being anywhere near this. This is not "news", it is an "accident". They didn't give a st when my dog was lying in a vets after an attack and they didn't give a st that my partner has injuries from it. Because this wild, unkept and unowned animal has been waving to the right people and made it into the background of a TV show she's suddenly the scum of the Earth, and should be demonised?

Damn right her name should have been out of the press. They don't care when it's someone's pet then they shouldn't give a st when it's a wild animal, but because they can chastise someone with some level of money/power/authority they're all over it like a tramp on chips.

Boils my piss.

Cotty

41,952 posts

308 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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21TonyK said:
C.A.R. said:
Dog should be destroyed; it's "lucky" it was a wild animal and not a child.
If the dog is proven to be dangerous then fair enough otherwise rehome it and prosecute the owner who failed to control it.
It attacked another animal, the seals wounds included a broken bone, dislocation of the flipper and damage to joints, ligaments and nerves. I would say thats proof enough, now put it down before it does that to a small child.

Bigends

6,032 posts

152 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Police could have taken some action under the old 1871 Dogs act had they wished to.

We used it prior to the Dangerous dogs act being created

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 24th March 2021
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The seal was just chilling, dog attacked it. If that isn't any intent of how dangerous a dog can be the i don't know what is.

There should be a dog licence, and keeping dog on a lead in public places. Dog owners are becoming the new entitlement class and need bringing down a peg or too, this is just a prime example of a growing bad trend.