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zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Evening all.

I am due to pick up my new Land Rover tomorrow, but the dealer seems to have lost it! Apparently it was in a compound at Hull yesterday, has been on a trailer and is now in another compound somewhere. The dealer expected it to arrive today but it didn't, and has not had notification that it will arrive tomorrow. The best they can tell me is basically "let's wait and see if it turns up soon".

I've never bought a brand new car before. Is this normal? To my uncomplicated brain it shouldn't be a difficult matter to keep a track of a car, work out where it is and get it to where it needs to be without losing it. What am I missing?

The cynic in me worries that they have sold it to someone else, and I'm being strung along while they source another one. Could that be true, or is it just hysterical paranoia?

Does anybody know how it works?

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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It's probably due to be delivered in on a transporter but the dealer may have little control over when that will be within reason obviously. Is the dealer in an obscure location?

red_slr

20,576 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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They should know exactly where the car is. when it got there, where it came from and where its going next.


MDMA .

10,646 posts

129 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Might have been damaged somewhere along the line and they're having it repaired. Give it a good going over before signing for it.

Or they might just not know where it is.

zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Matt_E_Mulsion said:
It's probably due to be delivered in on a transporter but the dealer may have little control over when that will be within reason obviously. Is the dealer in an obscure location?
Thanks. No, not a particularly obscure location: Stockton on Tees. I guess I'll just wait and see what happens next week. It's frustrating though!

zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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MDMA . said:
Might have been damaged somewhere along the line and they're having it repaired. Give it a good going over before signing for it.
Yes, I did wonder that too ...

Sebring440

3,190 posts

124 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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MDMA . said:
Might have been damaged somewhere along the line and they're having it repaired. Give it a good going over before signing for it.

Or they might just not know where it is.
rofl

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

93 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Is it new or used? Either way do you have a registration number or vin number because that'll ensure that 'your' car is 'yours'. I really wouldn't worry too much, it may be being relayed up on different transporters to make a load up going to the north east.

When I bought a Ford Direct motor a couple of weeks ago all the dealer could tell me is that they are delivered to them within ten working days. This was from a compound in Kent up to the Midlands. As it was I got a call four days later saying your car has turned up this morning and is ready to collect.

zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th March 2021
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Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Is it new or used? Either way do you have a registration number or vin number because that'll ensure that 'your' car is 'yours'. I really wouldn't worry too much, it may be being relayed up on different transporters to make a load up going to the north east.
It's new, so it doesn't have a VRM and I've no idea what the VIN is. I'm sure you're right; I'm just frustrated because I want my shiny new car.

surveyor

18,680 posts

212 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Things seemed a bit vague when my new truck was expected at the dealers...

red_slr

20,576 posts

217 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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zooky said:
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Is it new or used? Either way do you have a registration number or vin number because that'll ensure that 'your' car is 'yours'. I really wouldn't worry too much, it may be being relayed up on different transporters to make a load up going to the north east.
It's new, so it doesn't have a VRM and I've no idea what the VIN is. I'm sure you're right; I'm just frustrated because I want my shiny new car.
Here is an example of what dealers have. Or had 4 years ago. They are BSing you, IMHO.
If it was a tiny dealership selling obscure cars like Ssangyong or something I might be a bit more inclined to say they dont have this kind of system but JLR will certainly have something similar. Probably better as all JLR cars (as far as I know) have GPS.


zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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Red_slr yes, you would think that's exactly what they would have.

Radio silence again this morning ...

Ussrcossack

1,057 posts

70 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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It's in the body shop.

Sheepshanks

40,728 posts

147 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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red_slr said:
Here is an example of what dealers have. Or had 4 years ago. They are BSing you, IMHO.
If it was a tiny dealership selling obscure cars like Ssangyong or something I might be a bit more inclined to say they dont have this kind of system but JLR will certainly have something similar. Probably better as all JLR cars (as far as I know) have GPS.

That only shows actual dates in the factory, which is the easy bit - it would be interesting to see it from the port onwards.

Wife ordered a Tiquan that was showing as at Emden, and dealer said it would be 4-6 weeks to get to them. It arrived at the dealership in 8 days.

I think with every new car we've had the exact date has been uncertain and then we've been called to say it's arrived at the dealership and arranged collection a few days later. I don't recall ever setting a firm collection date based on an assumed arrival date.

SmoothCriminal

5,938 posts

227 months

Friday 26th March 2021
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This has got damage written all over it.

griffter

4,143 posts

283 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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A friend of mine works for a haulage company. Apparently losing a trailer is quite common and of no real concern. They always turn up eventually, so he says.

RS MOJO

35 posts

168 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Sounds like your dealer is promising it too soon - Disco or Defender I'm guessing...

Below is one I had a month ago (I've deleted the timestamps) - 27th was on a ship, arrived here on the 5th. Shipping compound - distribution compound - local compound - us

Truth is we never know exactly when it will arrive, next one along could be here in 24 hrs from landing, just depends where it fits on the schedule, if there is a space on the next truck going your way etc. Sometimes it will make the ship the day it arrives at the port other times will sit a week waiting.



05/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
DLR-DEL

05/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTCOMP
BDC
Out of Compound/Baddesley Distribution C



05/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
FINALDES

04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
ONTOLOAD
BDC
Vehicle built onto load/Baddesley Distri



04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
REMLOAD
BDC
Vehicle removed from load/Baddesley Dist



04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
ONTOLOAD
BDC
Vehicle built onto load/Baddesley Distri



03/03/21 Planning / Date Change D42
Planned Delivery Date
12/03/21

08/03/21
Acknowledge
02/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
IN2COMP

02/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTCOMP
HUMCOM
Out of Compound/Humber Holding Compound



01/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
CALLOVR
HUMCOM
Call Over (Home)/Humber Holding Compound



28/02/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTPTEN
GBKGH
Out of Port of Entry/Killingholme



28/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
IN2COMP

28/02/21 Status Change SAP
Detailed Status
Retailer Invoice

28/02/21 Status Change SAP
Detailed Status
Retailer Invoice

28/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
ARRPTIN

27/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
SHIPPED




Hope you enjoy it when it arrives...

zooky

Original Poster:

191 posts

204 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Thanks for all the replies, very interesting - especially that log, RS MOJO. Did your dealer share that with you?

I spoke with the dealer again yesterday and he said it will "probably" arrive on Monday,so we'll see ...

Dashnine

1,692 posts

78 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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RS MOJO said:
Sounds like your dealer is promising it too soon - Disco or Defender I'm guessing...

Below is one I had a month ago (I've deleted the timestamps) - 27th was on a ship, arrived here on the 5th. Shipping compound - distribution compound - local compound - us

Truth is we never know exactly when it will arrive, next one along could be here in 24 hrs from landing, just depends where it fits on the schedule, if there is a space on the next truck going your way etc. Sometimes it will make the ship the day it arrives at the port other times will sit a week waiting.



05/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
DLR-DEL

05/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTCOMP
BDC
Out of Compound/Baddesley Distribution C



05/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
FINALDES

04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
ONTOLOAD
BDC
Vehicle built onto load/Baddesley Distri



04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
REMLOAD
BDC
Vehicle removed from load/Baddesley Dist



04/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
ONTOLOAD
BDC
Vehicle built onto load/Baddesley Distri



03/03/21 Planning / Date Change D42
Planned Delivery Date
12/03/21

08/03/21
Acknowledge
02/03/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
IN2COMP

02/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTCOMP
HUMCOM
Out of Compound/Humber Holding Compound



01/03/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
CALLOVR
HUMCOM
Call Over (Home)/Humber Holding Compound



28/02/21 Lifecycle Event D42
Event
Location
Description
OUTPTEN
GBKGH
Out of Port of Entry/Killingholme



28/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
IN2COMP

28/02/21 Status Change SAP
Detailed Status
Retailer Invoice

28/02/21 Status Change SAP
Detailed Status
Retailer Invoice

28/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
ARRPTIN

27/02/21 Status Change D42
Detailed Status
SHIPPED




Hope you enjoy it when it arrives...
Just an FYI - Baddesley mentioned above is the JLR National Distribution Centre just west of Atherstone, where you can see the cars stored and lined up ready to go on transporters. Cars are delivered here from the factories, then built up into loads for a dealer or a number of dealers in the same area, or to ports, etc.

https://goo.gl/maps/iVBsi2krhxY5DJLXA

I believe dealers can pick up cars from here directly as my LR was collected rather than wait for the transporter delivery in order to get it to me so I could be relieved of my money before the month end.

Edited by Dashnine on Saturday 27th March 23:48

Jader1973

5,088 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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The system I used would only show despatch from main compound / plant and then delivery to dealer.

If the transport company dispatched it from the main compound on a bulk load and delivered it to another of their compounds to break that load up for final delivery then the manufacturer’s system probably wouldn’t show that. So all the dealer will see is “in transit”.

With what I used to do I had to check the transport companies system to see where the car actually was in terms of the trip e.g. I could see it had left Melbourne to go to a dealer in Brisbane in my system but the transport companies system would show me if it was in the NSW compound or the Brisbane compound waiting for the next leg. The dealers didn’t have access to that system.

There is of course the possibility they sent it to the wrong place by mistake - usually happens when the truck driver doesn’t check the paperwork and just loads a green Discovery.