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jdw100

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5,488 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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I was scanning an article about Ellen Page this morning.

Now Eliot Page.

My newsfeed doesn’t usually throw up celebrity stuff but this got through. I really liked his character in Umbrella Academy so did give it a quick read.

Turns out he has been subjected to lots of abuse on line.

This made me think who are these people?

Who can be arsed putting together a horrible message to send to someone they don’t know?

This is, obviously, not restricted to Mr. Page but also seems to effect many people. Similar is when a ‘celebrity’ posts pictures of themselves online and then people send messages commenting on how fat they are etc etc.


Who are these people? Do you know any? Have you sent a nasty message? Felt so strongly that you sent a message to someone you don’t know?

I’m not including MPs or organisations.

Judging by what I read about the volume of this stuff, then someone on here must know someone.

What are they like? Their motivations?


I will state up front: never been on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc. So the answer might be obvious....but I’m missing it.

I am aware that I don’t get any abuse because I have no online profile and assume few people have any interest in my accomplishments, clothes, breakfast etc. But that doesn’t apply to people that need a profile as a modern marketing tool; so staying off is not really possible for them.



alorotom

12,782 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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Someone I used to work for (who is now senior management in the NHS) has a Twitter account that is used for just this purpose and it’s even connected using his name etc...

He tends to aim his anger and bile at sports people and it’s very pathetic.

Proper little man syndrome. He’s not a pleasant character and had lots of previous for purposefully sabotaging people around him (including his own staff)!to make himself look better.

RC1807

13,674 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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I don't understand how people can be so nasty or hateful to do such a thing to anyone, especially someone they don't know.


TorqueDirty

1,870 posts

248 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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One has to assume the most of it is related to insecurity, jealously, supressed feeling of sexual inadequacy, religious fanaticism, political indoctrination and of course.......because a lot of people just appear to be utter s.

On a separate note, I wonder how many people will click on this thread thinking that you are selling a new improved version of Viagra over the internet?

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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Many people lead very sad lives and are jealous of those who do not...

jdw100

Original Poster:

5,488 posts

193 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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TorqueDirty said:
One has to assume the most of it is related to insecurity, jealously, supressed feeling of sexual inadequacy, religious fanaticism, political indoctrination and of course.......because a lot of people just appear to be utter s.

On a separate note, I wonder how many people will click on this thread thinking that you are selling a new improved version of Viagra over the internet?
For those looking for a very angry erection?

bristolbaron

5,375 posts

241 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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Gary Lineker ‘shat’ springs to mind. The mans endured years of abuse on Twitter in the name of ‘banter’.


eldar

25,272 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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PH has its share of sad old abusive misanthropes. Women routinely referred to as snakes with tits, for example.

But hey, it's only banter.

Smiljan

12,600 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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jdw100 said:
I was scanning an article about Ellen Page this morning.

Now Eliot Page.

My newsfeed doesn’t usually throw up celebrity stuff but this got through. I really liked his character in Umbrella Academy so did give it a quick read.
Its Elliot Page by the way.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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Because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside that they aimed an insult at someone.
In their tiny little minds, they have acheived Victory!!! Despite the fact that most people who are on the receiving end of these jibes, probably couldn't care one iota what small minded little keyboard warriors think of them.

James Blunt - despite what people think of him or his music - loves trolls and i think his whole attitude towards them is spot on laugh

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

75 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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ON various forums over decades I have been called all the names you can imagine, been threatened, sent death threats.

It does not affect me at all, it might affect me a little if I am going somewhere and I know a person might be there who is one of these people, but really it is not likely to go anywhere.

I get why some people are affected by it, but I think some people can differentiate between online trolling and real life stuff.

I would not cope so well with real life equivalent, and not sure why I can with online, maybe I have a thicker skin online, who knows. But I find most of it utterly insipid and just ranting or venting.

If someone calls me a name online it passes me by.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
ON various forums over decades I have been called all the names you can imagine, been threatened, sent death threats.

It does not affect me at all, it might affect me a little if I am going somewhere and I know a person might be there who is one of these people, but really it is not likely to go anywhere.

I get why some people are affected by it, but I think some people can differentiate between online trolling and real life stuff.

I would not cope so well with real life equivalent, and not sure why I can with online, maybe I have a thicker skin online, who knows. But I find most of it utterly insipid and just ranting or venting.

If someone calls me a name online it passes me by.
Because ultimately, you know the chances of you ever meeting someone who calls you a name online are so remote it's not worth bothering about. Lets be honest, do you know what i look like? Or where i live? i would wager the answer is no.
Do i know what you look like? Or where you live? No
So if we wanted to have a nasty and vitriolic argument, then the chances of us ever meeting up and it getting physical is ......ooooh.....lets say....zero!

But if i lived in the next street to you, and knew who you were online, the chances of it getting physical are greatly increased. Like i said earlier, keyboard warriors who think that their stupid little insults make them big and tough.

Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

7,416 posts

218 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
ON various forums over decades I have been called all the names you can imagine, been threatened, sent death threats.
Serious question - why do you think you’ve attracted so much hatred?

dmahon

2,717 posts

93 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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The trolls and bullies get all of the headlines, but the lefty SJWs are much worse.

The people defending this chap and virtue signalling for trans rights will outnumber the bully 1000 to 1 and will be altogether angrier and more aggressive.

I had a reasonable following on Twitter for a while. A few times I put my foot out of line by for instance using a non general neutral pronoun and got my arse handed to me.

More recently I challenged the orthodoxy on things like BLM and the Covid response, and the same people come at you like deranged psychopaths.

In short, Twitter in particular is a total toilet and should be avoided.

littleowl

922 posts

262 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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It's "banter" rolleyes

Yeah, course it is. Never did Caroline Flack any harm did it?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 2nd April 2021
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Yeah....banter is one thing....but at what point does it stop being "about the bants"* and be about making someones life a misery?
Been there and distanced myself from those i can't ignore or just plain walk away from.

* i believe that is what the young and youthful refer to it as these days