360 v's Gallardo dilemma (again!)
Discussion
Been thinking and would like to have the collective thoughts of the “PH Massif!” Can’t make up my mind as I love them both.
Amongst other ideas, I have a dilemma that I’m unsure about. 360 Spider v’s Gallardo Coupe. Do I keep the 360 and add a few choice mods, or “upgrade” (or not as some may see it) to a Gallardo coupe.
I an tinkling with this as the cost to change will probably be minimal (minus the cost of a Tubi for the G-Car! :D)
If I kept the 360, I’d almost definitely fit a new ECU, as I’ve got the full Tubi set up already (an extra 48 BHP apparently…) and maybe fit a set of bigger blingin wheels (I can’t seem to shake the rapper in me…!) and add a sav nav head unit.
G Car: More power, newer car, don’t suffer from the “Ferrari Rich Tw@t” comments I sometimes get, but have a hardtop.
360: Top down fun (the car only tend to get driven when the sun’s out)… and is a bit cheaper to keep.
This would mean, it would free up some moolah to get something nice to use daily, such as an M5, 530d, Brabus D4 etc etc…
The other options I have involve a Murcielago Roadster or a Gallardo Spider and a big bag of skintness!
Comments welcomed.
Tuan
Amongst other ideas, I have a dilemma that I’m unsure about. 360 Spider v’s Gallardo Coupe. Do I keep the 360 and add a few choice mods, or “upgrade” (or not as some may see it) to a Gallardo coupe.
I an tinkling with this as the cost to change will probably be minimal (minus the cost of a Tubi for the G-Car! :D)
If I kept the 360, I’d almost definitely fit a new ECU, as I’ve got the full Tubi set up already (an extra 48 BHP apparently…) and maybe fit a set of bigger blingin wheels (I can’t seem to shake the rapper in me…!) and add a sav nav head unit.
G Car: More power, newer car, don’t suffer from the “Ferrari Rich Tw@t” comments I sometimes get, but have a hardtop.
360: Top down fun (the car only tend to get driven when the sun’s out)… and is a bit cheaper to keep.
This would mean, it would free up some moolah to get something nice to use daily, such as an M5, 530d, Brabus D4 etc etc…
The other options I have involve a Murcielago Roadster or a Gallardo Spider and a big bag of skintness!
Comments welcomed.
Tuan
well you cant compare the cars!
the gallardo IMHO is far better looking, is far more capable in every way and far more exclusive. Ferrari lost the plot after the 355
i doubt the cost to change will be minimal given taht dealers want 8/10K out of the car to make it wowrhwhile
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 17:34
the gallardo IMHO is far better looking, is far more capable in every way and far more exclusive. Ferrari lost the plot after the 355
i doubt the cost to change will be minimal given taht dealers want 8/10K out of the car to make it wowrhwhile
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 17:34
just look at the track times the gallardo is up there with a CS thats a fact.
if it does not rock your boat thats fine but facts are facts!!!
Its always difficult getting a balanced view when asking such a question really. All the 360 owners will say they dont like it and its not as good ectect.
Best try it and see.
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 18:28
if it does not rock your boat thats fine but facts are facts!!!
Its always difficult getting a balanced view when asking such a question really. All the 360 owners will say they dont like it and its not as good ectect.
Best try it and see.
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 18:28
How about going for a 360CS and a Murci Roadster? (whats another 50-60k between friends) 
If I were you (I wouldnt be online Id be driving - but thats another thing ) I wouldnt want to chop the 360 in for a Gallado. You have an amazing combination at the moment and somehow a Gallado and Murci wouldnt quite be the same, although on paper perhaps 'better'. Both are hardtops, both Lambos, Both current etc etc - having two such amazing cars to me would mean I'd want two which contrasted each other in some way - ie 1 hardtop, 1 convertable etc - or 1 modern, 1 classic etc. Otherwise, dare I say it, you'd perhaps look a little bit like someone who had bought the new car but not yet traded the old one in.
If I were you (I wouldnt be online Id be driving - but thats another thing
) I wouldnt want to chop the 360 in for a Gallado. You have an amazing combination at the moment and somehow a Gallado and Murci wouldnt quite be the same, although on paper perhaps 'better'. Both are hardtops, both Lambos, Both current etc etc - having two such amazing cars to me would mean I'd want two which contrasted each other in some way - ie 1 hardtop, 1 convertable etc - or 1 modern, 1 classic etc. Otherwise, dare I say it, you'd perhaps look a little bit like someone who had bought the new car but not yet traded the old one in. octane said:
well you cant compare the cars!
the gallardo IMHO is far better looking, is far more capable in every way and far more exclusive. Ferrari lost the plot after the 355
i doubt the cost to change will be minimal given taht dealers want 8/10K out of the car to make it wowrhwhile
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 17:34
Some guys like brunettes, others like blondes...
The Gallardo is hardly exclusive, there isn't even a waiting list on new cars.
sjn2004 said:
well you cant compare the cars!
the gallardo IMHO is far better looking, is far more capable in every way and far more exclusive. Ferrari lost the plot after the 355
i doubt the cost to change will be minimal given taht dealers want 8/10K out of the car to make it wowrhwhile
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 17:34
Some guys like brunettes, others like blondes...
The Gallardo is hardly exclusive, there isn't even a waiting list on new cars.
Well in my book exclusivity is about how unique it is on the roads- you cant say that about a 360! just because there is no wait for individuals who buy cars as automotive jewels im failing to see the correlation between a lack of waiting list and exclusive!!
octane said:
just look at the track times the gallardo is up there with a CS thats a fact.
if it does not rock your boat thats fine but facts are facts!!!
Its always difficult getting a balanced view when asking such a question really. All the 360 owners will say they dont like it and its not as good ectect.
Best try it and see.
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 18:28
I did try it (my post said i test drove it) and i didnt like it. Too boring for my money, didnt like the feel of the steering and for such a small car the 4 wheel drive made it into a car that wasnt fun to drive for me.
I'd have a 360 over a Standard Gallardo anyday. Gallardo Spider vs 360 CS , hopefully i might be in a situation to make that decision when the time comes.
I dont believe in stats really, i prefer to get in a car and judge for myself. If you say this is so many secs quicker around a track, i say thats pretty meaningless to me, at this end of the market, ALL the cars are fast. Are we that good drivers, or use them to the point where we notice the difference , i dont think so !
octane said:
just look at the track times the gallardo is up there with a CS thats a fact.
if it does not rock your boat thats fine but facts are facts!!!
Its always difficult getting a balanced view when asking such a question really. All the 360 owners will say they dont like it and its not as good ectect.
Best try it and see.
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 18:28
Numbers are for accountants.
0-60 times, mid range times, top speeds, Nurburgring times. All numbers. If you're racing they're much more relevant. Or if your playing Top Trumps with your mates.
If you want to enjoy yourself, less so.
James Hunt used to tool around in an A40 van (or some equally ancient heap) because he could oversteer at 30mph and had a hoot doing so. There's a lot to be said for that.
And whilst I accept I live in London, Gallardos aren't exactly rare.
Tuan - wouldn't you find the Gallardo too close to its bigger brother? As you have a bike (nice btw) for real adrenaline, what about something more in between. A 360CS perhaps?
Alternatively, why not try something slower but with buckets more character, style and "specialness" - a classic/older car? Merc 300 gullwing? Miura? Plenty of stuff to choose from (go mental, get a Lancia Stratos!), you don't get *any* of the rich jibes and the vast majority of people love a well chosen one!
murph7355 said:
just look at the track times the gallardo is up there with a CS thats a fact.
if it does not rock your boat thats fine but facts are facts!!!
Its always difficult getting a balanced view when asking such a question really. All the 360 owners will say they dont like it and its not as good ectect.
Best try it and see.
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 18:28
Numbers are for accountants.
0-60 times, mid range times, top speeds, Nurburgring times. All numbers. If you're racing they're much more relevant. Or if your playing Top Trumps with your mates.
If you want to enjoy yourself, less so.
James Hunt used to tool around in an A40 van (or some equally ancient heap) because he could oversteer at 30mph and had a hoot doing so. There's a lot to be said for that.
And whilst I accept I live in London, Gallardos aren't exactly rare.
Tuan - wouldn't you find the Gallardo too close to its bigger brother? As you have a bike (nice btw) for real adrenaline, what about something more in between. A 360CS perhaps?
Alternatively, why not try something slower but with buckets more character, style and "specialness" - a classic/older car? Merc 300 gullwing? Miura? Plenty of stuff to choose from (go mental, get a Lancia Stratos!), you don't get *any* of the rich jibes and the vast majority of people love a well chosen one!
well I live in london as well and i think we can agree that the 360 is far more common than a gallardo- that was the original point.
Best to go to Ferrari chat in the lambo section and follow the views of many who have made the change and race in real world circumstances, amny owners have f cars as well so the comparisons are more relevant. So no 'top trumps 'there!
The 360's been out for 6 years. So of course it's more common at the moment. Give it 5 years...
And I'm not doubting that the Gallardo is a faster car, point to point or in a straight line (racing in real world situations is not something anyone should be getting into IMO, unless that "real world" situation is on a track).
What I am saying is that the way a car *feels*, something that is impossible to detail on a spec sheet, is in my mind more important these days. A BMW M5 is a mightily quick car. Probably not far off the Gallardo in many respects. But does it make it the preferred car?
Cars are getting faster and faster these days. But the majority are becoming more and more insipid to actually drive. And personally I'd rather not have a 100k+ Playstation car on the drive but something that instills a bit of passion and zest in every drive.
And I'm not doubting that the Gallardo is a faster car, point to point or in a straight line (racing in real world situations is not something anyone should be getting into IMO, unless that "real world" situation is on a track).
What I am saying is that the way a car *feels*, something that is impossible to detail on a spec sheet, is in my mind more important these days. A BMW M5 is a mightily quick car. Probably not far off the Gallardo in many respects. But does it make it the preferred car?
Cars are getting faster and faster these days. But the majority are becoming more and more insipid to actually drive. And personally I'd rather not have a 100k+ Playstation car on the drive but something that instills a bit of passion and zest in every drive.
Another thought is that are you still going to use it for the weddings? i'd iminagine a lot of people that would want to hire something special for the big day would just want a 'red Ferrari' rather than a yellow Lambo or something. I think you have a nice collection there as it is, something that appeals to everyone, if your still using them for business i'd stay as you are mate.
In terms of your business Tuan, I reckon the 360 would have more clout.
First, it's a Ferrari - most familiar brand name in the world. Means more to your average punter than Lamborghini. Second, it's far more compatible with the average visual palette than the Gallardo, and is a convertible, which really helps again with general public appeal.
You've gotta have a Ferrari on the fleet I reckon - if not for yourself then definitely the business.
However for personal use I'd trade it in for a Gallardo. And even if you were keeping the 360 I don't know if upgrading it is the way to go. You're clearly toying with the idea of a change, and modding your current car maybe ultimately isn't going to give you that change you want.
I think at the end of the day Rico's got it nailed - get the Gallardo to go along with the current fleet.
First, it's a Ferrari - most familiar brand name in the world. Means more to your average punter than Lamborghini. Second, it's far more compatible with the average visual palette than the Gallardo, and is a convertible, which really helps again with general public appeal.
You've gotta have a Ferrari on the fleet I reckon - if not for yourself then definitely the business.
However for personal use I'd trade it in for a Gallardo. And even if you were keeping the 360 I don't know if upgrading it is the way to go. You're clearly toying with the idea of a change, and modding your current car maybe ultimately isn't going to give you that change you want.
I think at the end of the day Rico's got it nailed - get the Gallardo to go along with the current fleet.
octane said:
octane said:
well you cant compare the cars!
the gallardo IMHO is far better looking, is far more capable in every way and far more exclusive. Ferrari lost the plot after the 355
i doubt the cost to change will be minimal given taht dealers want 8/10K out of the car to make it wowrhwhile
>> Edited by octane on Monday 11th July 17:34
Some guys like brunettes, others like blondes...
The Gallardo is hardly exclusive, there isn't even a waiting list on new cars.
Well in my book exclusivity is about how unique it is on the roads- you cant say that about a 360! just because there is no wait for individuals who buy cars as automotive jewels im failing to see the correlation between a lack of waiting list and exclusive!!
The word you should actually be using is "rarity". At the end of the day Ferrari is a bigger brand than Lamborghini despite the Gallardo being faster A to B than the 360. If all you're bothered about are track times then buy a GT3RS,GT2 or Ruf...
Weren't a lot of Gallardo's out together on the Audi A8 line in Germany? Thats not exactly exclusive.
SJN2004 said:
Weren't a lot of Gallardo's out together on the Audi A8 line in Germany? Thats not exactly exclusive.
Personally I'd buy ANY car if it was made on the Audi A8 production line - to my mind (and seconded by friends in the industry) it is by far an away the best automotive production line in the world. Audi A8 build quality is better than pretty much anything else out there.
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