Shirley Williams - RIP
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rover 623gsi said:
Indeed. She talked a lot of sense, was highly intelligent, and used it positively. She was centre-left and felt out of place with labour, so was one of the Gang of Four, and was the most remarkable of them. She was principled, as you say, and not only that, but stuck with them despite the risks to her career. A shame there aren't that many of them around.
TR4man said:
She was a remarkable parliamentarian, but whenever her name is mentioned I always think of “Testament Of Youth” by Vera Brittain one of the best books ever written about WW1.
YesIt was only after I watched the film based on the book that I released that she was Shirley's Mother.
crankedup said:
Yes I would also echo that.
RIP
And meRIP
She was one of those politicians who was far more relatable and likeable when they weren't politicians.
How much better would politics be if the politicians were allowed to talk sense rather than tow the party line (I found Benn and Portillo the same)
Pity it will be overshadowed by Phil's passing, Williams was believed to have been nearly
the first female PM, which needs to be slighted salted in order to be thought likely.
To have a 50 year career in politics and not to have been accused of impropriety, fraud, deviancy or
financial jiggery-pokery deserves some sort of respect.
RIP Baroness Shirley Williams.
the first female PM, which needs to be slighted salted in order to be thought likely.
To have a 50 year career in politics and not to have been accused of impropriety, fraud, deviancy or
financial jiggery-pokery deserves some sort of respect.
RIP Baroness Shirley Williams.
Iamnotkloot said:
Murph7355 said:
Didn't agree with her stance on many things, but seemed to be a decent politician and stood up for what she believed in, which is really all we can ask of MPs/politicians. Shame more aren't like it today.
I'd echo that. RIP
I had immense respect for Tony Benn likewise .. I didn’t always agree with him, but a very clever smart and Honorable man
Earthdweller said:
Iamnotkloot said:
Murph7355 said:
Didn't agree with her stance on many things, but seemed to be a decent politician and stood up for what she believed in, which is really all we can ask of MPs/politicians. Shame more aren't like it today.
I'd echo that. RIP
I had immense respect for Tony Benn likewise .. I didn’t always agree with him, but a very clever smart and Honorable man
Whatever the evils of war I think WW2 did bring people together in the UK and promoted efforts towards a common good. Society seems to have moved much more towards selfishness and individualism since then.
Esceptico said:
Is it just a coincidence that the more principled MPs of her generation either experienced WW2 directly or were around in the immediate aftermath?
Whatever the evils of war I think WW2 did bring people together in the UK and promoted efforts towards a common good. Society seems to have moved much more towards selfishness and individualism since then.
No I Don’t think it is Whatever the evils of war I think WW2 did bring people together in the UK and promoted efforts towards a common good. Society seems to have moved much more towards selfishness and individualism since then.
Sometimes you have to have lived through bad times to see clearly
Clarity of thought and mind is hard won
Esceptico said:
Is it just a coincidence that the more principled MPs of her generation either experienced WW2 directly or were around in the immediate aftermath?
Whatever the evils of war I think WW2 did bring people together in the UK and promoted efforts towards a common good. Society seems to have moved much more towards selfishness and individualism since then.
I think from the current crop some of those that have served in the military seem to be a little more selfless.Whatever the evils of war I think WW2 did bring people together in the UK and promoted efforts towards a common good. Society seems to have moved much more towards selfishness and individualism since then.
Tobias Ellwood, Dan Jarvis from either side seem like MPs motivated to serve rather than just gain...?
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