new fangled new born baby stuff
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Im the office dinosaur,
Three lads have just or about to had babies (via their wives)
I am staggered at all the new ideas and new ways of doing stuff compared to when my two were babies
In the last few days ive heard about video baby monitors, and the latest one is some kind of machine that plays white noise for babies,
when my two were babies (20 years ago) you didn't creep about, they fitted in around your lifestyle,
surely all this is taking advantage of parents insecurity?
Three lads have just or about to had babies (via their wives)
I am staggered at all the new ideas and new ways of doing stuff compared to when my two were babies
In the last few days ive heard about video baby monitors, and the latest one is some kind of machine that plays white noise for babies,
when my two were babies (20 years ago) you didn't creep about, they fitted in around your lifestyle,
surely all this is taking advantage of parents insecurity?
As with everything in life, there's always someone trying to sell you something with the claims that your life will be improved. Births, deaths and marriages always seem to be key selling points!
We found the perfect prep machine invaluable, the ability to make fresh formula in less than 2 mins, at the right temp, is amazing. Friend who had babies 10 years previously were amazed to see it in action as they recalled the fuss of making fresh formula in the small hours.
We also have a video baby monitor, I can even access it anywhere in the world (which is quite nice when you're travelling for for work...remember that). Helps make the differentiation between baby stirring or needing attention.
White noise products, some people swear by them, baby devnull f
king hates them. I'd rather not condition to fall asleep to white noise, seen too many friends out and about playing white noise tracks on Spotify!
There's a lot of crap about though!
We found the perfect prep machine invaluable, the ability to make fresh formula in less than 2 mins, at the right temp, is amazing. Friend who had babies 10 years previously were amazed to see it in action as they recalled the fuss of making fresh formula in the small hours.
We also have a video baby monitor, I can even access it anywhere in the world (which is quite nice when you're travelling for for work...remember that). Helps make the differentiation between baby stirring or needing attention.
White noise products, some people swear by them, baby devnull f
king hates them. I'd rather not condition to fall asleep to white noise, seen too many friends out and about playing white noise tracks on Spotify!There's a lot of crap about though!
Edited by devnull on Tuesday 13th April 12:33
David87 said:
devnull said:
the ability to make fresh formula in less than 2 mins, at the right temp, is amazing. Friend who had babies 10 years previously were amazed to see it in action as they recalled the fuss of making fresh formula in the small hours.
Boobs do this for free. 
Ours are now 18 month & 4.
Perfect Prep - god send.
Video monitor - useful but not the be all and end all - sound monitor would have been sufficient.
Ewan The Dream Sheep - White noise generator. Fantastic. Both of ours loved it Wake in the middle of the night? Squeeze Ewan's foot & before you know they're back in the land of nod. No difference to a mobile that kids wold have had 40 years ago.
Other than that I don't see us using anything that different to what people would have used 20 years ago.
Perfect Prep - god send.
Video monitor - useful but not the be all and end all - sound monitor would have been sufficient.
Ewan The Dream Sheep - White noise generator. Fantastic. Both of ours loved it Wake in the middle of the night? Squeeze Ewan's foot & before you know they're back in the land of nod. No difference to a mobile that kids wold have had 40 years ago.
Other than that I don't see us using anything that different to what people would have used 20 years ago.
the world advances - what was the norm or acceptable 20yrs ago will undoubtedly move on - acceptable is no longer adequate for most. Look at car seats and what was deemed to be safe from the same period is now very different.
We used a motion monitor for a while when we had our daughter - a pad underneath the mattress that alerts lack of motion and helps alert to and therefore prevent SIDS then moved onto regular video monitors.
Formula prep as mentioned was a godsend.
Many people invest heavily into starting a family and want to protect that investment of family - I can't blame them its wonderful being a dad (and thats from someone who never wanted a child and actually believed I couldn't have them naturally) - yes there will be those out to exploit but in the main its simply safety and awareness tools.
We used a motion monitor for a while when we had our daughter - a pad underneath the mattress that alerts lack of motion and helps alert to and therefore prevent SIDS then moved onto regular video monitors.
Formula prep as mentioned was a godsend.
Many people invest heavily into starting a family and want to protect that investment of family - I can't blame them its wonderful being a dad (and thats from someone who never wanted a child and actually believed I couldn't have them naturally) - yes there will be those out to exploit but in the main its simply safety and awareness tools.
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
Most people but fairly normal looking prams for an awful lot less than £3kThese days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
Not even close to being true. These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
By a vast margin the huge majority of pushchairs are conventional 4-wheelers (Joie, Mamas and Papas, iCandy, Uppababy, Cybex, the list goes on) and top out around £1200 for the premium options with all the attachments (bassinet, seat, car seat adapters). Having visited several stores that specifically sell pushchairs recently, the only brand that makes three wheelers was Phil and Ted's, and they're about £400 for the better ones.
Why do you create this odd alternate reality in your mind?
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
Not even close to being true. These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
By a vast margin the huge majority of pushchairs are conventional 4-wheelers (Joie, Mamas and Papas, iCandy, Uppababy, Cybex, the list goes on) and top out around £1200 for the premium options with all the attachments (bassinet, seat, car seat adapters).
Why do you create this odd alternate reality in your mind?
ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
Not even close to being true. These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
By a vast margin the huge majority of pushchairs are conventional 4-wheelers (Joie, Mamas and Papas, iCandy, Uppababy, Cybex, the list goes on) and top out around £1200 for the premium options with all the attachments (bassinet, seat, car seat adapters). Having visited several stores that specifically sell pushchairs recently, the only brand that makes three wheelers was Phil and Ted's, and they're about £400 for the better ones.
Why do you create this odd alternate reality in your mind?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Silver cross AM Edition 3, £3K exactly. Although it has got 4 wheels, and in only 2 different sizes.
Do you somehow think that proves your point? A custom Aston Martin pushchair that at a glance is only available from Harrods? Just how many of those do you see knocking about?You'll note that the normal version of that pram is £1000 for everything;
https://www.pramworld.co.uk/silver-cross-special-e...
Not to mention that your original picture is of a custom manufacturer in the USA, whose price was $800-1400, that went out of business in 2015.
Are you alright?
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 13th April 17:09
I think our icandy travel system was 600 new, paid 80 second hand
I replaced the bearings and inner tubes for slime ones. The thing has been going solidly for 2.5 years now, gets a total bashing.
When away in a hotel enroute to holiday in 2019 I actually went and got it out of the car, couldn’t afford for it to be pinched!
Car seats are a bit pricey too, but you do get a lot of use
The spinning child seat is a god send for loading them
I replaced the bearings and inner tubes for slime ones. The thing has been going solidly for 2.5 years now, gets a total bashing.
When away in a hotel enroute to holiday in 2019 I actually went and got it out of the car, couldn’t afford for it to be pinched!
Car seats are a bit pricey too, but you do get a lot of use
The spinning child seat is a god send for loading them
TwigtheWonderkid said:
My 2 boys are 25 & 22. When they were little, we had pushchairs / prams, and they came with 4 wheels, all the same size.
These days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
Well that’s completely wrongThese days and even number of wheels is a big no no, they all have 3, 5 or 7 wheels. And usually 3 different sizes of wheel on each one. With suspension, disc brakes and 7 different interchangeable seats for different occasions. And cost about £3K.
austinsmirk said:
The hormonal brain of a mother to be has no grasp on logical or financial restraint when it comes to buying shiny stuff for the first new baby.
I'm sure this is sexist but it's entirely true. Also mothers in law get wildly overexcited about the opportunity to buy baby stuff again. My house is now chock full of baby related future landfill 
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