Self-assesment help
Self-assesment help
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Puggit

Original Poster:

49,196 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I normally fill in my own self-assesment - very simple due to PAYE.

Last year (2020-2021) I was employed (P45 on departure), contracted for 3 months (paid direct from the USA), then PAYE again for 3 months.

Just asked a local accountant for a quote for completing my SA - £450!

I can see online companies willing to go much cheaper.

What do PHers normally pay?

Eric Mc

124,091 posts

282 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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I do my own for free smile

I would expect sub £300 for your's - assuming there are no other complications.

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,196 posts

265 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Eric Mc said:
I do my own for free smile

I would expect sub £300 for your's - assuming there are no other complications.
If you couldn't, I would worry hehe

MaxFromage

2,435 posts

148 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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£450 biggrin It's probably because you're a one-off and they can't be bothered. All that set up, ML requirements etc.

bogie

16,799 posts

289 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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You can do your own in about 10 mins, its just another section for employment you create in the SA form.

Eric Mc

124,091 posts

282 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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bogie said:
You can do your own in about 10 mins, its just another section for employment you create in the SA form.
It doesn't sound like another employment to me.

From what the OP says it sounds like a small amount of "self employed" income needs to be returned - so the self employed "pages" need to be completed (which might include inserting some self employed expenses for offset against the self employed income).

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,196 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Eric Mc said:
bogie said:
You can do your own in about 10 mins, its just another section for employment you create in the SA form.
It doesn't sound like another employment to me.

From what the OP says it sounds like a small amount of "self employed" income needs to be returned - so the self employed "pages" need to be completed (which might include inserting some self employed expenses for offset against the self employed income).
I went online and tried - got horribly lost in the mire of the self employed part. I think because my pro-rota earnings from 3 months of self employed were above the £85k pa threshold? Also the money came from abroad - and the wizard seemed to be aware of that when I tried claiming I had no income from abroad (I received a warning!).

There were actually no expenses - sat at home and all equipment was provided.

Eric Mc

124,091 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Get an accountant.

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,196 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Eric Mc said:
Get an accountant.
That's what I'm doing but they quoted me £450! Trying to understand a realistic cost while avoiding the web based sharks offering £120 services smile

Taita

7,840 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I pay £250, he's remote up in Scotland.

Can't see yours being any more expensive than mine?

RowanF

72 posts

177 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I would imagine my accountant would be about half that, roughly. Let me know if you'd like an introduction.

Eric Mc

124,091 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Puggit said:
That's what I'm doing but they quoted me £450! Trying to understand a realistic cost while avoiding the web based sharks offering £120 services smile
Shop around.

Puggit

Original Poster:

49,196 posts

265 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Got a local guy - £150 smile

dirty boy

14,788 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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I would say around £300 would be about right.

As mentioned above, we still need to do letter of engagement, ML checks, set up file, check details/contract that it was actually self-employed and not a foreign employment, the first year is usually least profitable (we like to make money too).

If it is self-employment, you say no expenses, but make sure you get asked questions which will probablydetermine that you probably do have some that are legitimate claims and could reduce liability. Make sure USA company didn't remit any taxes on your behalf too as they may be relieved against UK income, grab all the paperwork you can.

I'd like to think a decent accountant will likely save you that fee and give you the peace of mind that it's correct too. £150 sounds cheap.

Eric Mc

124,091 posts

282 months

Wednesday 14th April 2021
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Agreed.

People don't know the questions they need to ask - and some so-called accountants don't ask those questions either.

I hope your cheap accountant asks you all the right questions.

sgrimshaw

7,539 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th April 2021
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Sounds like a pretty simple scenario.

I've used Tax Clac for my taxes for more years than I can remember. Their wizards would probably get you through it quite easily.

You would only need the Individual version:

https://www.taxcalc.com/individual#Versions

for £32 got to be worth a look