MS Teams and multiscreen - Am I missing something obvious?
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Morning all,
I have two external monitors plugged into my laptop. One of the best benefits this provides is that ability in Zoom or Webex to have a presentation (whether mine or someone else's) running on one screen whilst having the participant videos on another, which makes it so much easier to see if people are still engaged with the content, etc.
Unfortunately we must've done something to really upset our IT procurement bods, as we have to use MS Teams as our video-conferencing tool.
I've tried looking everywhere I can think of, but I just can't get it to break out into multiple windows! I find it really hard to believe that it's so crap that it doesn't even offer the most rudimentary of multiscreen support, so I assume that there's some trick I've not yet discovered!
Could somebody point me in the right direction, please?
I have two external monitors plugged into my laptop. One of the best benefits this provides is that ability in Zoom or Webex to have a presentation (whether mine or someone else's) running on one screen whilst having the participant videos on another, which makes it so much easier to see if people are still engaged with the content, etc.
Unfortunately we must've done something to really upset our IT procurement bods, as we have to use MS Teams as our video-conferencing tool.
I've tried looking everywhere I can think of, but I just can't get it to break out into multiple windows! I find it really hard to believe that it's so crap that it doesn't even offer the most rudimentary of multiscreen support, so I assume that there's some trick I've not yet discovered!Could somebody point me in the right direction, please?
Not quite yet.
Dynamic view is rolling out now, but it's still single window/screen. https://www.uctoday.com/collaboration/team-collabo...
It's irritating given that the Teams room systems and meeting bars that support dual screens do it nicely.
Dynamic view is rolling out now, but it's still single window/screen. https://www.uctoday.com/collaboration/team-collabo...
It's irritating given that the Teams room systems and meeting bars that support dual screens do it nicely.
RammyMP said:
If you’re broadcasting your screen you can have your screen on one monitor and the Teams view, watching people, on the other. I think there’s a function in Teams to view someone’s presentation and flick from slide to slide but they have to share the content that way.
The presenter has to share the presentation to Teams from PowerPoint rather than opening it from Teams.paulrockliffe said:
RammyMP said:
If you’re broadcasting your screen you can have your screen on one monitor and the Teams view, watching people, on the other. I think there’s a function in Teams to view someone’s presentation and flick from slide to slide but they have to share the content that way.
The presenter has to share the presentation to Teams from PowerPoint rather than opening it from Teams.Are you running the latest version of Teams? The functionality has changed a lot in the last 12 months or so, including the change for meetings to open in a separate teams window so you can navigate around your normal teams window on one screen with the meeting open on the other, and showing more than 4 participant camera feeds simultaneously.
xeny said:
Comes free with O365, why spend more, or possibly don't have any more to spend.
I think it's generally fairly good, but it wasn't a video calling thing until Skype was canned 18 months ago, so that side is still in development really.I'd bet on Teams ahead of Zoom in the long-term though, Zoom is a f
king disaster zone. If I want to video call my parents I have to start a call, get it's details, email them to my Dad and wait for him to type them in on his phone. On Teams I just dial his number. Teams is pretty good to be fair. What you want to do OP is have powerpoint on one screen and teams on another.
Then share powerpoint, not the screen in general. You will find it under the righthand "desktop column" that become visible when you share.
Teams will want to minimise its self when you present otherwise, this is so you can see what you are presenting, not teams its self.
Then share powerpoint, not the screen in general. You will find it under the righthand "desktop column" that become visible when you share.
Teams will want to minimise its self when you present otherwise, this is so you can see what you are presenting, not teams its self.
paulrockliffe said:
I think it's generally fairly good, but it wasn't a video calling thing until Skype was canned 18 months ago, so that side is still in development really.
I'd bet on Teams ahead of Zoom in the long-term though, Zoom is a fking disaster zone. If I want to video call my parents I have to start a call, get it's details, email them to my Dad and wait for him to type them in on his phone. On Teams I just dial his number.
If you have a paid version of zoom you have your own (static) meeting ID and vanity URL for your meetings - they can join your meeting (if you let them) from that link or number at any point.I'd bet on Teams ahead of Zoom in the long-term though, Zoom is a f
king disaster zone. If I want to video call my parents I have to start a call, get it's details, email them to my Dad and wait for him to type them in on his phone. On Teams I just dial his number. We use both teams (primarily internally) and zoom (externally) extensively for work - zoom is miles ahead for videoconferencing and audio quality.
Teams is better as a collaboration tool with the deep integration into onedrive/sharepoint, but you can tell it's several different products hacked together into one jumble of chat client, teams chat client, collaboration tool and videoconferencing. MS apparently has more developers working on teams than any other solution, so it will get significantly better over time...
Edited by random_username on Thursday 15th April 09:26
sjg said:
Not quite yet.
Dynamic view is rolling out now, but it's still single window/screen. https://www.uctoday.com/collaboration/team-collabo...
It's irritating given that the Teams room systems and meeting bars that support dual screens do it nicely.
Dynamic view is targeted at single screen setups. Using multiple screens in the way the OP expects has been supported for a while now, and being 365 this isn't really something a user will have much control over. Once a feature is enabled at the tenant level it will be supported in the client, and client updating is automatic so it should never be 'out of date' and not be able to support new features as they are added.Dynamic view is rolling out now, but it's still single window/screen. https://www.uctoday.com/collaboration/team-collabo...
It's irritating given that the Teams room systems and meeting bars that support dual screens do it nicely.
The only scenario I can see the OP not being able to use multiple screens is if they are using the web client. That's limited to a single browser window.
I read it as wanting to spread a participant view across two monitors - ie a colleague is presenting, and you want that content nice and big on one monitor, and have the video feeds nice and big on the other, not reduced to a little bar at the bottom under the content.
As the OP says, Zoom does it and Teams doesn't (yet).
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/20136258...
As the OP says, Zoom does it and Teams doesn't (yet).
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/20136258...
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
Teams is pretty good to be fair. What you want to do OP is have powerpoint on one screen and teams on another.
Then share powerpoint, not the screen in general. You will find it under the righthand "desktop column" that become visible when you share.
Teams will want to minimise its self when you present otherwise, this is so you can see what you are presenting, not teams its self.
I only ever share the specific application rather than a screen, but I still can't get to what I want.Then share powerpoint, not the screen in general. You will find it under the righthand "desktop column" that become visible when you share.
Teams will want to minimise its self when you present otherwise, this is so you can see what you are presenting, not teams its self.
If I'm on Zoom, I can have PPT in presentation view on one of my large screens, all the participants on my other large screen and PPT speaker notes or OneNote on my laptop screen. With Teams, I just can't get close to that!
Also worth noting is that until recently it was all a bit of a moot point, as Teams absolutely killed my poor little lightweight laptop as soon as I started trying to screen share anyway!
Going from a total of 8Gb of memory to 16Gb + 4Gb on the graphics card has made a huge difference....Fun fact... My new laptop has at least 1,000 times the RAM of the 5 IBM360 mainframes combined that NASA had to run the entire Apollo 11 mission!
sjg said:
I read it as wanting to spread a participant view across two monitors - ie a colleague is presenting, and you want that content nice and big on one monitor, and have the video feeds nice and big on the other, not reduced to a little bar at the bottom under the content.
As the OP says, Zoom does it and Teams doesn't (yet).
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/20136258...
Teams absolutely does do this, I'm doing it right now!As the OP says, Zoom does it and Teams doesn't (yet).
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/20136258...
Edit: Was completely rolled out by Aug 2020. This article has more (note that the 'opt-in' setting is no longer there as it is in full production)
Edited by loudlashadjuster on Thursday 15th April 09:51
loudlashadjuster said:
Dynamic view is targeted at single screen setups. Using multiple screens in the way the OP expects has been supported for a while now, and being 365 this isn't really something a user will have much control over. Once a feature is enabled at the tenant level it will be supported in the client, and client updating is automatic so it should never be 'out of date' and not be able to support new features as they are added.
The only scenario I can see the OP not being able to use multiple screens is if they are using the web client. That's limited to a single browser window.
I'm definitely not using the web client, and I'm definitely on the latest version.The only scenario I can see the OP not being able to use multiple screens is if they are using the web client. That's limited to a single browser window.
As I'm actually on a call at the moment, I've just had another look at what I can or can't do. When someone shares content, their shared content pops into the main view with the participant video feeds as thumbnails at the bottom of the screen. If I click on one of the thumbnails, then it minimises the shared content, and maximises the participant video feeds.
My expectation, based on Zoom/Webex is to be able to have the shared content maximised on one screen, and the participant video feeds maximised on another, but I just cannot see anything anywhere that suggests this is in any way possible.
If you think should be possible, I'd really appreciate a bit more information on what to look for and where!
loudlashadjuster said:
Teams absolutely does do this, I'm doing it right now!
Edit: Was completely rolled out by Aug 2020. This article has more (note that the 'opt-in' setting is no longer there as it is in full production)
That's the ability to have the meetings window be separate from the chat/teams/channels window, and do things like pop out a chat to a separate window. But a meeting is still a single window/monitor for video and content.Edit: Was completely rolled out by Aug 2020. This article has more (note that the 'opt-in' setting is no longer there as it is in full production)
Edited by loudlashadjuster on Thursday 15th April 09:51
What Zoom can do (and Teams currently can't on desktop) is to separate out the video feeds and content (screenshare/presntation) and have each on a separate monitor.
Zoom:
Teams room system with dual monitors:
Ahh, OK, I think I may have figured out the discrepancy.
Share desktop - Two screens
Share application window (inc. PowerPoint) - Two screens
Share PowerPoint file - One screen only
I rarely/never use the 'share PowerPoint file' option, hence my confusion. For me, unless you want people to be able to manually navigate your file during the call, there is no downside to sharing the application window instead, and then you have the multiple screens available.
Share desktop - Two screens
Share application window (inc. PowerPoint) - Two screens
Share PowerPoint file - One screen only
I rarely/never use the 'share PowerPoint file' option, hence my confusion. For me, unless you want people to be able to manually navigate your file during the call, there is no downside to sharing the application window instead, and then you have the multiple screens available.
loudlashadjuster said:
Ahh, OK, I think I may have figured out the discrepancy.
Share desktop - Two screens
Share application window (inc. PowerPoint) - Two screens
Share PowerPoint file - One screen only
I rarely/never use the 'share PowerPoint file' option, hence my confusion. For me, unless you want people to be able to manually navigate your file during the call, there is no downside to sharing the application window instead, and then you have the multiple screens available.
But that's only for you outbound.Share desktop - Two screens
Share application window (inc. PowerPoint) - Two screens
Share PowerPoint file - One screen only
I rarely/never use the 'share PowerPoint file' option, hence my confusion. For me, unless you want people to be able to manually navigate your file during the call, there is no downside to sharing the application window instead, and then you have the multiple screens available.
I spend far more time on calls with other people sharing content to the audience than I do with me sharing, but I still want to be able to see the content and the people on separate screens.
The most obvious benefit of this is when I've got a techie with me presenting in English to customers/partners for whom English isn't their first language. It's far, far easier to gauge how well the content/speed of delivery is going down in Zoom where I can see both at full size than in Teams where I can only have either/or.
Kermit power said:
But that's only for you outbound.
I spend far more time on calls with other people sharing content to the audience than I do with me sharing, but I still want to be able to see the content and the people on separate screens.
The most obvious benefit of this is when I've got a techie with me presenting in English to customers/partners for whom English isn't their first language. It's far, far easier to gauge how well the content/speed of delivery is going down in Zoom where I can see both at full size than in Teams where I can only have either/or.
Gotcha.I spend far more time on calls with other people sharing content to the audience than I do with me sharing, but I still want to be able to see the content and the people on separate screens.
The most obvious benefit of this is when I've got a techie with me presenting in English to customers/partners for whom English isn't their first language. It's far, far easier to gauge how well the content/speed of delivery is going down in Zoom where I can see both at full size than in Teams where I can only have either/or.
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