I've smashed my knee to pieces!
I've smashed my knee to pieces!
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sociopath

3,433 posts

95 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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HSE before he kills someone

liner33

10,861 posts

231 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Report it to the HSE , something you should have done before the accident , everyone has a responsibility for H&S

HRL

3,358 posts

248 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Username checks out.

That’s some bad st and needs reporting ASAP.

surveyor

18,690 posts

213 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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This is a notifiable incident.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/riddor/reportable-incidents...

Report it yourself. This guy is dangerous.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Ask your employer for full details of their employer's liability insurance. And get yourself a decent solicitor specialising in workplace accidents.

55palfers

6,368 posts

193 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Retired CMIOSH here. I spent 30 years trying to get people like your boss to work safely.

So many failings in evident from your narrative!

Phone HSE and a make a report asap. They will log it and await your employer's report.

Your employer will be in even deeper poo if he fails to report this as a RIDDOR LTA at the earliest opportunity.

Did you go straight to hospital from accident site?

bristolracer

5,949 posts

178 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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He could have killed you, get it reported before he kills your replacement.

mmm-five

12,342 posts

313 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Hope you recover quickly and without complications down the line, and don't lose your job over it, but...

Consider yourself lucky for not killing yourself or somebody else by not reporting it before now.

In my eyes, you are equally as responsible as the owner for not reporting it, and then carrying on using unsafe equipment and tools you're not trained/licensed for.

Benmac

1,697 posts

245 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Without a doubt report as others have said, that breaches so much. Missus is an ex HSE inspector. The only time she lost it (this was when she was in her 20s so about 30yrs ago) was responding to an accident where a young lad new to a job doing almost exactly what you've been doing had a fork lift topple from a ramp it shouldn't have been going up in the first place onto a wagon onto him. He was still being removed from the scene when she got there as she just happened to be near and was making a lot of noise. He ended up a double amputee but lived.

In "losing it" she basically bounced the company owner round the site office such was her anger. Her early twenties 5'5", size 6. Him 6ft and about 16st.

Lotus Notes

1,331 posts

220 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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55palfers said:
Phone HSE and a make a report asap. They will log it and await your employer's report.
As the professional says.. Report it.
Where I live, in France, he would have been arrested by now and the works inspector would be circling.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

139 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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sociopath said:
HSE before he kills someone
This x 100!!

OMITN

3,046 posts

121 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Lawyer here who looks after H&S for large national business:

1. Report to the HSE ASAP.
2. Get legal advice ASAP - personal injury firm is fine.
3. It is compulsory for him to have employer's liability insurance - tell him you want to make a claim and need the details ASAP.

I hope you heal fast and without too many long term ill effects,.

(And for anyone else - no-one on this thread - who bangs on about "Health and Safety Gone Mad", it's unnecessary st like this that proves that workplace safety is something we all have a responsibility for.)

Good luck OP.

vaud

59,402 posts

184 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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OMITN said:
Lawyer here who looks after H&S for large national business:

1. Report to the HSE ASAP.
2. Get legal advice ASAP - personal injury firm is fine.
3. It is compulsory for him to have employer's liability insurance - tell him you want to make a claim and need the details ASAP.

I hope you heal fast and without too many long term ill effects,.

(And for anyone else - no-one on this thread - who bangs on about "Health and Safety Gone Mad", it's unnecessary st like this that proves that workplace safety is something we all have a responsibility for.)

Good luck OP.
^^^ this

Don't let the employer pressure you into taking some payoff.

PPEhero

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250 posts

104 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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55palfers said:
Retired CMIOSH here. I spent 30 years trying to get people like your boss to work safely.

So many failings in evident from your narrative!

Phone HSE and a make a report asap. They will log it and await your employer's report.

Your employer will be in even deeper poo if he fails to report this as a RIDDOR LTA at the earliest opportunity.

Did you go straight to hospital from accident site?
Thanks. As soon as I’m out of Hopsital I will call HSE. Just awaiting theatre now.

Didn’t go straight to hospital he sent another lad out that has no HGV license to drive the truck back with me in it, then I got a lift to the hospital

Edited by PPEhero on Friday 16th April 13:16

jamesson

3,705 posts

250 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Jesus. I have nothing to add from a professional perspective but just wanted to say I hope your knee recovers fully and you get suitably compensated for a completely avoidable incident.

Best wishes, OP.

55palfers

6,368 posts

193 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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PPEhero said:
55palfers said:
Retired CMIOSH here. I spent 30 years trying to get people like your boss to work safely.

So many failings in evident from your narrative!

Phone HSE and a make a report asap. They will log it and await your employer's report.

Your employer will be in even deeper poo if he fails to report this as a RIDDOR LTA at the earliest opportunity.

Did you go straight to hospital from accident site?
Thanks. As soon as I’m out of Hopsital I will call HSE. Just awaiting theatre now.

Didn’t go straight to hospital he sent another lad out that has no HGV license to drive the truck back with me in it, then I got a lift to the hospital

Edited by PPEhero on Friday 16th April 13:16
Thanks.

Make some detailed notes of the events both pre and post incident before your memory fades. Contemporaneous notes are worth their weight in gold.

Hope the surgery goes well and you recover quickly.



joropug

3,051 posts

218 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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Very sorry to hear this.

Regarding compensation which is duly deserved and the no doubt additional costs/lost work you're going to experience I would instruct a solicitor ASAP.

With regards to the company potentially folding, I'm not sure how this would impact you or if it will, providing he is insured and has employee liability which he is legally obliged to do. Obtain the details of this if possible, if you don't want to ask him it should be displayed in a prominent position on the premises, perhaps a trusted friend could help.

vaud

59,402 posts

184 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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55palfers said:
Make some detailed notes of the events both pre and post incident before your memory fades. Contemporaneous notes are worth their weight in gold.
This as well.

Doesn't have to be written in legal speak.

Just write down what happened. Bullet points help as a timeline:

  • On Tuesday 13th of April at about 10am Mr ABC asked me to do XYZ
  • On the journey from A to B the brakes were failing, smoking and the pedal went to the floor on XYZ road
  • I told Mr ABC at the end of the day and... etc
(I am not a lawyer)

Fastchas

2,836 posts

150 months

Friday 16th April 2021
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I work in litigation now. A PI solicitor would be clambering all over this.