Singer Gazelle Windows.
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Johnspex

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Monday 19th April 2021
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Does anyone her have or used to have an early 60s Gazelle?

In about 1971 I bought my uncles Gazelle. It was a 61 model but I can't remember the mark no.
I can remember the reg though.361 BGT.

What suddenly popped in to my head was the front window winder weren't the same as each other.
The passenger on would up normally but the driver's one went up or down in less than 1revolution of the handle. Does anyone else remember that.
I'm also fairly sure there was old car in the family which Windows tha went up in about a 90 degree turn of a lever. Armstrong Siddeley perhaps.


Seems like a clever idea.


Clifford Chambers

28,500 posts

204 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I've not come across this, and had a few Rootes group cars.

If it could be designed with a light enough operation why not extend it to all the windows?

PZR

635 posts

206 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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Johnspex said:
I'm also fairly sure there was old car in the family which Windows tha went up in about a 90 degree turn of a lever. Armstrong Siddeley perhaps.
Austin A90 Atlantic had something very similar.

Johnspex

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Monday 19th April 2021
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It is quite possible I'm mistaken . It was nearly 50 years ago.

mybrainhurts

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276 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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My dad had one from new. He never mentioned anything about window winders.

Touring442

3,096 posts

230 months

Monday 19th April 2021
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I had a 1962 Rapier but don't recall the 'quick' window winder.

Johnspex

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Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Oh well. I don't know what I'm thinking of.

Turbobanana

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222 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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"Asymmetric" details on cars are fascinating.

- AMC Pacer had one door longer than the other to allow easier access to the back seats
- Hyundai Veloster had 2 doors on one side, one on the other for the same reason
- Citroen ZX had certain models with one electric mirror (the passenger side) and one manual
- Various seventies and eighties Fiats with their asymmetric bonnet vents / radiator grilles
- (bit of a stretch) Routemaster Buses with "half a cab"
- Woolf Barnato's Blue Train Bentley, with a sideways-facing rear seat

Other weird asymmetric car detail exist.

Truckosaurus

12,839 posts

305 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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It's an interesting idea on the window winders, indicative of the times when the car was from - have a quicker window for the male driver (with powerful muscles due to non-assisted steering biggrin) and a low geared, easier to turn, one for passengers who might be women or children.

CoupeKid

926 posts

86 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Presumably the thinking was that the driver would want to quickly wind the window down and up to pay tolls (or flick his cigarette out of the window) whereas the passenger would only want to crack the window open for ventilation.

Rob Dicky

216 posts

244 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Also for hand signals rolleyes

Cliftonite

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159 months

Tuesday 20th April 2021
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Rob Dicky said:
Also for hand signals rolleyes
Exactly! My first and immediate thought! smile




Johnspex

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Tuesday 20th April 2021
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I think that was the ide

Johnspex

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Tuesday 20th April 2021
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I'm not thinking of an early rover p5 am I?

lowdrag

13,139 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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Turbobanana said:
"Asymmetric" details on cars are fascinating.

- AMC Pacer had one door longer than the other to allow easier access to the back seats
- Hyundai Veloster had 2 doors on one side, one on the other for the same reason
- Citroen ZX had certain models with one electric mirror (the passenger side) and one manual
- Various seventies and eighties Fiats with their asymmetric bonnet vents / radiator grilles
- (bit of a stretch) Routemaster Buses with "half a cab"
- Woolf Barnato's Blue Train Bentley, with a sideways-facing rear seat

Other weird asymmetric car detail exist.
Coming more up to date doesn't the Mini estate have three doors? And being european, the rear passenger door is on the wrong side of course.

Old Merc

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188 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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Cliftonite said:
Rob Dicky said:
Also for hand signals rolleyes
Exactly! My first and immediate thought! smile
This thread is starting to ring bells.
I started my career in 1963 as a Rootes apprentice. I also passed my driving test in an old Hillman.
I have this vague memory of the driver’s window going right down with about one turn of the lever. While the others needed a few turns.

mph

2,362 posts

303 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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I've owned a car with a quick action drivers window and I've also owned a Singer Gazelle of the same vintage.

Unfortunately it was so long ago that I can't recall if it was the Singer that had that feature.

Not much help - but I remember thinking what a good idea it was at the time.

Turbobanana

7,747 posts

222 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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lowdrag said:
Turbobanana said:
"Asymmetric" details on cars are fascinating.

- AMC Pacer had one door longer than the other to allow easier access to the back seats
- Hyundai Veloster had 2 doors on one side, one on the other for the same reason
- Citroen ZX had certain models with one electric mirror (the passenger side) and one manual
- Various seventies and eighties Fiats with their asymmetric bonnet vents / radiator grilles
- (bit of a stretch) Routemaster Buses with "half a cab"
- Woolf Barnato's Blue Train Bentley, with a sideways-facing rear seat

Other weird asymmetric car detail exist.
Coming more up to date doesn't the Mini estate have three doors? And being european, the rear passenger door is on the wrong side of course.
Could well do, but they're too new for my attention span.

Truckosaurus

12,839 posts

305 months

Wednesday 21st April 2021
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Yes, the previous generation Clubman did have a little suicide door only on one side which was the 'wrong' side for RHD cars.

On the subject of wrong sided doors, I once work with a chap who bought a cheap German caravan and realised when he first arrived on a campsite the reason it was cheap was the door was on the other side and nothing lined up with the power points or hard standing on the site.

Johnspex

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Wednesday 21st April 2021
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In about 66my dad bought a really good quality caravan, quite small from a colleague. When he got it home someone pointed out that in the uk a trailer over a certain weight needed brakes. This one, an Eriba Puck, hadnone so back it went.
The vendor started using it again.