Human Crash 'Test Dummy’ Presenter Suing BBC For £3.7m
Human Crash 'Test Dummy’ Presenter Suing BBC For £3.7m
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anonymous-user

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77 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/jem-stansfield-bang-goes...

''A TV host is suing the BBC for a reported £3.7 million after he sustained injuries when he volunteered to be a human crash test dummy.

Jem Stansfield took part in an experiment for the series Bang Goes The Theory in 2014, which saw him strapped to a specially-designed cart.''

''and claim he has lost out on a large number of earnings and “a career on the same level as Jeremy Clarkson”.

video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svvGGrfu9HM

Already offered over 2 million....

What do you think?

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 28th April 23:17

carinaman

24,425 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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He sounds fecked if you play the YouTube video at quarter speed.

JagLover

46,111 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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This has been done before and far more professionally.

Colonel Stapp withstood G forces 46 times normal gravity as he went from 150 mph to a dead stop.

https://www.businessinsider.com/john-stapp-human-c...

I imagine his sled and restraints were properly designed though. The issue in this case seems to have been damage to the neck.

voyds9

8,490 posts

306 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Stupid person does something stupid and expects compensation

Thought the correct answer was to start a GoFundme

bobbo89

5,944 posts

168 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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So he designed a rig which had a crumple zone made of a stainless steel salad bowl and then sat in it with no neck brace and fired it, and himself into a steel post....twice?

What a muppet!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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What gets me , is the BBC have already offered 2 odd million. People get disabled properly for life don't get that.

JagLover

46,111 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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bobbo89 said:
So he designed a rig which had a crumple zone made of a stainless steel salad bowl and then sat in it with no neck brace and fired it, and himself into a steel post....twice?

What a muppet!
Well did he "design it" or did he get shown it for the first time in filming.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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I find this very odd.

Jem Stansfield is a very clever chap. Degree in aeronautics, science advisor, ballistics expert, head of engineering, and won a New Scientist prize. He has being doing science and engineering programs for 15 years.

Bearing all that in mind, you would think he would be intelligent enough to choose not to physically involve himself in an experiment that could potentially cause injury/whiplash, or at the very least, be fully aware of the possible outcome.

He designed and built the car crash experiment, and decided to take part in it of his own free will, so I do not see how he has a claim of any sort.

They only way he would have a case is if the BBC said to him “We want you to build a car crash experiment and we also want you to be the crash test dummy, and if you don’t do it, you are fired” which I find massively unlikely given how risk averse an organisation like the BBC are.

The BBC being the BBC will just hand over the money though. I see they are already offering him £2m.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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JagLover said:
bobbo89 said:
So he designed a rig which had a crumple zone made of a stainless steel salad bowl and then sat in it with no neck brace and fired it, and himself into a steel post....twice?

What a muppet!
Well did he "design it" or did he get shown it for the first time in filming.
He says he “Calculated the crash profile figures” and “Carefully designed and built the rig” and “Testing made him confident he would walk away”

Given that he was the ‘Head of engineering’ on the program, and is a scientist/engineer/designer, plus his above comments, I would suggest he did design and build it.

But stranger things have happened.

JagLover

46,111 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
He says he “Calculated the crash profile figures” and “Carefully designed and built the rig” and “Testing made him confident he would walk away”

Given that he was the ‘Head of engineering’ on the program, and is a scientist/engineer/designer, plus his above comments, I would suggest he did design and build it.

But stranger things have happened.
Perhaps I am a bit cynical after all the things the Top Gear Team have "built" over the years.

If he did design it then fair enough. I suppose the BBC still has some liability as his employer but £2m sounds more than fair.

anonymous-user

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77 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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JagLover said:
but £2m sounds more than fair.
Solider loses a leg, gets a 100k i think. Obviously this system isn't fair, and he did it willing, knew the risks and designed the experiment himself.

the only difference i see, is he probably has very good laywers. I imagine a Saul Goodman scenario, the neck brace that comes straight off once the money is deposited in the bank.

Oakey

27,970 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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JagLover said:
Well did he "design it" or did he get shown it for the first time in filming.
He says in the video "I've carefully designed and built this rig..."

andy43

12,594 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Oakey said:
JagLover said:
Well did he "design it" or did he get shown it for the first time in filming.
He says in the video "I've carefully designed and built this rig..."
I’m not an aeronautical engineer but a stainless mixing bowl from B&M as a crumple zone doesn’t strike me as very “engineered”? I’d have taped a cushion under my chin at the very least...

saaby93

32,038 posts

201 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Surely this was all his own making?

He should have checked these out first
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_Pursuit_Veh...



InitialDave

14,356 posts

142 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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"A career on the same level as Jeremy Clarkson"?

Doubt it. Richard Hammond, perhaps.

KR158

787 posts

182 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
I find this very odd.

Jem Stansfield is a very clever chap. Degree in aeronautics, science advisor, ballistics expert, head of engineering, and won a New Scientist prize. He has being doing science and engineering programs for 15 years.

Bearing all that in mind, you would think he would be intelligent enough to choose not to physically involve himself in an experiment that could potentially cause injury/whiplash, or at the very least, be fully aware of the possible outcome.

He designed and built the car crash experiment, and decided to take part in it of his own free will, so I do not see how he has a claim of any sort.

They only way he would have a case is if the BBC said to him “We want you to build a car crash experiment and we also want you to be the crash test dummy, and if you don’t do it, you are fired” which I find massively unlikely given how risk averse an organisation like the BBC are.
Very much echoing my own thoughts. Very strange situation indeed.

JuniorD

9,013 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
I find this very odd.

Jem Stansfield is a very clever chap. Degree in aeronautics, science advisor, ballistics expert, head of engineering, and won a New Scientist prize. He has being doing science and engineering programs for 15 years.

Bearing all that in mind, you would think he would be intelligent enough to choose not to physically involve himself in an experiment that could potentially cause injury/whiplash, or at the very least, be fully aware of the possible outcome.

He designed and built the car crash experiment, and decided to take part in it of his own free will, so I do not see how he has a claim of any sort.

They only way he would have a case is if the BBC said to him “We want you to build a car crash experiment and we also want you to be the crash test dummy, and if you don’t do it, you are fired” which I find massively unlikely given how risk averse an organisation like the BBC are.

The BBC being the BBC will just hand over the money though. I see they are already offering him £2m.
Agree with everything you say. However, screw his degree and experience, the answer can be isolated from the thread titled -

He's a Dummy.




red_slr

20,013 posts

212 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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JuniorD said:
Lord Marylebone said:
I find this very odd.

Jem Stansfield is a very clever chap. Degree in aeronautics, science advisor, ballistics expert, head of engineering, and won a New Scientist prize. He has being doing science and engineering programs for 15 years.

Bearing all that in mind, you would think he would be intelligent enough to choose not to physically involve himself in an experiment that could potentially cause injury/whiplash, or at the very least, be fully aware of the possible outcome.

He designed and built the car crash experiment, and decided to take part in it of his own free will, so I do not see how he has a claim of any sort.

They only way he would have a case is if the BBC said to him “We want you to build a car crash experiment and we also want you to be the crash test dummy, and if you don’t do it, you are fired” which I find massively unlikely given how risk averse an organisation like the BBC are.

The BBC being the BBC will just hand over the money though. I see they are already offering him £2m.
Agree with everything you say. However, screw his degree and experience, the answer can be isolated from the thread titled -

He's a Dummy.
This to me is a classic example of someone who can calculate the square root of a banana but cant peel one.

Either that or it was simply this:



The Wookie

14,187 posts

251 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Sorry, I know everyone is different and every impact is different but I've experienced impacts far worse than that dozens of times over while racing.

My neck isn't perfect but I get on with my life, it was my choice to go racing and I doubt anyone forced him to get on the sledge that he himself designed.

Think about the people who are born with serious disabilities or who have suffered major injuries through no fault of their own.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,339 posts

78 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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The Wookie said:
Sorry, I know everyone is different and every impact is different but I've experienced impacts far worse than that dozens of times over while racing.

My neck isn't perfect but I get on with my life, it was my choice to go racing and I doubt anyone forced him to get on the sledge that he himself designed.

Think about the people who are born with serious disabilities or who have suffered major injuries through no fault of their own.
Yeah... but how many of your race cars had mixing bowl attached to the front!?!