Go Give One - WHO donations.
Go Give One - WHO donations.
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Gargamel

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16,355 posts

290 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Here in the UK, we are lucky, vaccines are free and plentiful, if you want one - one is available.

Around the world this isn’t the case and the WHO launched a fantastic campaign to help vaccinate people.

https://gogiveone.who.foundation/

If you have had the vaccine for ‘free’ then maybe donate and pay it back?

Lovely to see Greta putting $100,000 to this cause.

rodericb

8,870 posts

155 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?

ATG

23,720 posts

301 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You're right. It's everyone else's responsibility. You just carry on as you were.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
This has to be a wind up, Bill Gates foundation has put hundreds of millions of dollars into the covid pot already along with billions of dollars into other medical research.

It would be better for so many of these countries that have millions of residents who cannot afford to get a vaccine to cut their military and unnecessary projects.

Look at the state of India , trying to blag more money when they have blown over a billion dollars on a fking rocket program.

greygoose

9,661 posts

224 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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ATG said:
rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You're right. It's everyone else's responsibility. You just carry on as you were.
Indeed, that Bill Gates never spends anything on vaccines and healthcare for others.

CambsBill

2,455 posts

207 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You mean the Bill Gates whose foundation has already put hundreds of millions into things like the eradication of polio? As a proportion of overall wealth he'll already be in the top three (if not number one) in terms of donating to good causes.

Spare tyre

12,556 posts

159 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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CambsBill said:
rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You mean the Bill Gates whose foundation has already put hundreds of millions into things like the eradication of polio? As a proportion of overall wealth he'll already be in the top three (if not number one) in terms of donating to good causes.
Ut he stopped the updates to windows xp, this caused big drama in my work

rodericb

8,870 posts

155 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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If "the world" has to be vaccinated, why wasn't vaccinating "the world" approached holistically and each country/jurisdictions ability to contribute assessed and contributions from them to the relevant vaccine providers all planned and collected as such? If countries like India apparently don't see the need to fund some or all of the Covid 19 vaccinations but prefer to build gigantic monuments and send rockets into space why do individuals such as us have to throw money at them? Or should people like the WHO work the whole thing through with them with the aim to have the Indian (and other recalcitrant) government(s) come to the party?


alorotom

12,782 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Lets not forget that India also receives pretty massive sums of foreign aid annually too ... the most globally I believe ... $4.2bn (as per 2017/18: DAC)
https://www.wristband.com/content/which-countries-...

KingNothing

3,337 posts

182 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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When I eventually get my vaccine, I'll let China make a donation on my behalf instead.

centralscot

66 posts

79 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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Since when did vaccines become free?

alorotom

12,782 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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centralscot said:
Since when did vaccines become free?
Since people who are covered by the NHS are able to obtain, without direct payment or specification for a vaccine to be administered to them - hence why it's driven not by patient choice but clinical need/requirement.

Gargamel

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16,355 posts

290 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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The program is global and is in the end about people not governments.

I am sure plenty of PHers have just quietly donated.

Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

80 months

Friday 30th April 2021
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centralscot said:
Since when did vaccines become free?
Exactly. A significant chunk is taken from my pay packet every month to pay for this stuff. As has been said if their governments didn’t waste so much money it wouldn’t be left to us to bail them out again.

ATG

23,720 posts

301 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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Drive it fix it repeat said:
centralscot said:
Since when did vaccines become free?
Exactly. A significant chunk is taken from my pay packet every month to pay for this stuff. As has been said if their governments didn’t waste so much money it wouldn’t be left to us to bail them out again.
Governments are us.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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greygoose said:
ATG said:
rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You're right. It's everyone else's responsibility. You just carry on as you were.
Indeed, that Bill Gates never spends anything on vaccines and healthcare for others.
If you think Bill Gates puts the population of the world before himself, check how much his net worth has increased during the year in which so many people have been financially broken.

Then check how his generosity is not quite what it seems. In a nutshell, he's heavily invested in big pharma and has been tirelessly defending and promoting their intellectual rights in favour of development and distribution of vaccines, thus delaying progress.

The long version is here....

https://newrepublic.com/article/162000/bill-gates-...

His family's history of enthusiam for eugenics is also worrying.

Gargamel

Original Poster:

16,355 posts

290 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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mybrainhurts said:
If you think Bill Gates puts the population of the world before himself, check how much his net worth has increased during the year in which so many people have been financially broken.

Then check how his generosity is not quite what it seems. In a nutshell, he's heavily invested in big pharma and has been tirelessly defending and promoting their intellectual rights in favour of development and distribution of vaccines, thus delaying progress.

The long version is here....

https://newrepublic.com/article/162000/bill-gates-...

His family's history of enthusiam for eugenics is also worrying.
Outside of Pharma companies, who else is likely to be able to develop vaccines? Bunch of tin foil hatter. Bezos and Musk also made similar gains in wealth does that help?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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Gargamel said:
mybrainhurts said:
If you think Bill Gates puts the population of the world before himself, check how much his net worth has increased during the year in which so many people have been financially broken.

Then check how his generosity is not quite what it seems. In a nutshell, he's heavily invested in big pharma and has been tirelessly defending and promoting their intellectual rights in favour of development and distribution of vaccines, thus delaying progress.

The long version is here....

https://newrepublic.com/article/162000/bill-gates-...

His family's history of enthusiam for eugenics is also worrying.
Outside of Pharma companies, who else is likely to be able to develop vaccines? Bunch of tin foil hatter. Bezos and Musk also made similar gains in wealth does that help?
No, Bezos and Musk have no influence over the restriction of vaccine development and manufacture, never mind generating wealth from such influence. You didn't read the text, did you?

Evanivitch

26,360 posts

151 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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CambsBill said:
rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You mean the Bill Gates whose foundation has already put hundreds of millions into things like the eradication of polio? As a proportion of overall wealth he'll already be in the top three (if not number one) in terms of donating to good causes.
It's crazy that in the "informed" world today that Bill Gates can be accused of both injecting mind controlling microchips and also not spending money on vaccines.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Saturday 1st May 2021
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Evanivitch said:
CambsBill said:
rodericb said:
Why individuals and not the pharmaceutical companies and folk like Bill Gates?
You mean the Bill Gates whose foundation has already put hundreds of millions into things like the eradication of polio? As a proportion of overall wealth he'll already be in the top three (if not number one) in terms of donating to good causes.
It's crazy that in the "informed" world today that Bill Gates can be accused of both injecting mind controlling microchips and also not spending money on vaccines.
You didn't read the link I posted either, did you?