Osprey nest cut down with chainsaw in Wales

[Pastor Of Muppets]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-56955084.amp

Why on earth would anyone commit such a despicable crime. A few theories as to why, some
reckon a grudge against the RSPB, or an angler unhappy about them taking fish. Personally
I'm thinking more along the lines of absolute braindead moron.

[Taffer]

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

[Welshbeef]

FFS why would anyone do such an idiotic act.

[Byker28i]

Is there still a market for the eggs for people to raise their own birds?
Someone objecting to their presence, do they take lambs?

Edited by Byker28i on Sunday 2nd May 12:36

[JonChalk]

Most likely fishermen, who see them as a threat to their "sport".

[Drive it fix it repeat]

Complete tossers. Some wildlife can be a PITA but that’s not the way to go about dealing with it.

[Randy Winkman]

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

Well said.

[carinatauk]

Randy Winkman said:

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

Well said.

Do Ospreys pose a threat to the hunting / shooting brigade? Thought Ospreys were fish eaters.

[Unknown_User]

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

Good post.

[Camoradi]

carinatauk said:

Randy Winkman said:

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

Well said.

Do Ospreys pose a threat to the hunting / shooting brigade? Thought Ospreys were fish eaters.

"Like the killing and disappearance of ...." as in similar too, but not the same thing exactly

[Taffer]

carinatauk said:

Do Ospreys pose a threat to the hunting / shooting brigade? Thought Ospreys were fish eaters.

Sorry, I meant shooting/fishing brigade - Ospreys do indeed eat only fish.

Other birds of prey are still disappearing and being killed/poisoned, very often on managed estates. Raptors like red kites are carrion feeders, so pose no risk to livestock, and were demonized for years - even today though, they end up shot, or dead after ingesting illegally poisoned bait.

The risk posed by bigger raptors, like eagles, has been massively exaggerated, and far too often they are illegally killed by so-called 'professional' gamekeepers, purely to protect the interest of a relatively small number of moneyed folk. Other countries manage to have wild hunting in woods, forests, etc., yet the amount of land in the UK that is artificially kept as a monoculture purely to support the shooting of game and give toffs easy targets to shoot is, frankly, appalling. There's plenty of promising rewilding projects going on in Scotland at the moment, but as long as the Royals, Russian oligarchs and Arab sheikhs feel the need to dress in tweed and play lord of the manor, the biodiversity of huge areas of land will suffer.

[KR158]

Unknown_User said:

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

Good post.

Well said.

[OzzyR1]

Taffer said:

Boating out in the dark with a chainsaw to fell an osprey nest is not the actions of a brain-dead moron. This is most likely a deliberately targeted crime, which makes it all the more despicable, especially since the laying of eggs at the site was only announced.

Like the killing and disappearance of birds of prey which almost always seems to happen on 'managed' estates (odd that), the most likely suspects will be from the hunting and shooting brigade, who seem to love nature as long as the landscape is artificially maintained just to support the things they love to shoot/fish.

More likely to be egg collectors imho, sill a huge market for this for some unfathomable reason.

[waynedear]

Every fisherman I know is honoured to have Ospreys on the rivers, cormorants on the other hand.

[Vanden Saab]

We went to see the Osprey in Poole harbour yesterday and were lucky enough to catch a glimpse of it flying in the distance. Majestic bird and a sight to behold. The return of birds of prey is a delight to anybody who appreciates them. We regularly go out to watch and photograph Buzzards, Kites, Kestrels and Owls locally and I cannot imagine anybody wishing them harm. Hopefully they will be caught and dealt with appropriately to send a message to anyone else thinking along the same lines.

[BigMon]

Nothing much to add apart from whoever did this is the absolute scum of the earth as is anyone who kills raptors.

How much damage do they do to game or whatever compared with, for example, rats? I bet it doesn't even compare.

[eldar]

Vanden Saab said:

We went to see the Osprey in Poole harbour yesterday and were lucky enough to catch a glimpse of it flying in the distance. Majestic bird and a sight to behold. The return of birds of prey is a delight to anybody who appreciates them. We regularly go out to watch and photograph Buzzards, Kites, Kestrels and Owls locally and I cannot imagine anybody wishing them harm. Hopefully they will be caught and dealt with appropriately to send a message to anyone else thinking along the same lines.

I live near a roundabout on the M69 which appears to be some sort of sanctuary for buzzards, a daily sight locally, they are often chased by crows who harass them. Entertaining to watch.

I assume the motorway is a good source of roadkill.

[Pastor Of Muppets]

OzzyR1 said:

More likely to be egg collectors imho, sill a huge market for this for some unfathomable reason.

Highly unlikely, anyone after the eggs would scale the platform and covertly take them and be gone
without attracting any attention. Chainsawing the nest down would smash the eggs, so that doesn't
make egg collectors sound very feasible.

There might be a market for the likes of Peregrine eggs for Falconry but not Ospreys.

[Unknown_User]

OzzyR1 said:

More likely to be egg collectors imho, sill a huge market for this for some unfathomable reason.

Those pesky egg collectors eh.......

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/19/sc...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotl...

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/...

https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/20...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/g...

https://www.nwcu.police.uk/news/wildlife-crime-pre...

https://raptorpersecutionscotland.files.wordpress....

https://www.animalaid.org.uk/queens-gamekeeper-fac...

And if these hard done by gamekeepers egg collectors weren't protected by their wealthy employers, then convictions could be much much higher.

[ZedLeg]

If the lake was stocked by the land owner then you shouldn't have to look very far for the culprits I'd expect.