What time do mobile cameras actually operate?
What time do mobile cameras actually operate?
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Bennet

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2,133 posts

160 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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What time do mobile cameras tend to start and finish operating?

I appreciate there is probably not one answer for the whole of the UK, but as a general rule... are they in operation at 7am for instance? Or do most begin once the roads are busier?

(If anyone wants specifics, Snakes Pass and Woodhead Pass in Derbyshire are ones I'm particularly interested in.)

RedWhiteMonkey

9,073 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Aren't they 24 hours? Why wouldn't they be?

Bennet

Original Poster:

2,133 posts

160 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Aren't they 24 hours? Why wouldn't they be?
Because I'm assuming they don't want to pay a bloke to sit there for no reason at 4am.

wazztie16

1,680 posts

160 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Handheld, any time. I've seen one being used around 9pm, quiet road.

Derbyshire police twitter put out tweets stating they've done speed checks at night, so I should think anytime 6am-10pm would be a good ball park for a static van or dedicated speed operation.

Gman20

9,548 posts

175 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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They used to occasionally be out till midnight where i used to live with the hand held ones or one on a tripod.
I'm not sure i've ever seen a camera van operating in the dark, although that might be because they are a lot less noticeable.

Bucksspeedyboy

142 posts

83 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Gman20 said:
They used to occasionally be out till midnight where i used to live with the hand held ones or one on a tripod.
I'm not sure i've ever seen a camera van operating in the dark, although that might be because they are a lot less noticeable.
I’m afraid they do operate in the dark. I was driving into Bletchley in December 2019 at 5.45pm when it was dark and cold. I was on a dual carriageway which was NSL. There was then a roundabout and after this the DC suddenly becomes 30 mph. I was on the inside lane with a car on the outside lane just in front of me. Suddenly the car in the outside lane brakes hard so that I pass it on the inside, at which point I saw there was a police van of some sort parked on the central reservation. As I went past it, it looked like it was all locked-up and empty. So I just assumed it was only a police van and they must of been on a job somewhere. A week later I received a NIP for doing 35 in a 30!

T6 vanman

3,514 posts

128 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Bucksspeedyboy said:
A week later I received a NIP for doing 35 in a 30!
User name checks out hehe

devnull

3,859 posts

186 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Yes, they can operate quite late into the night, the dark isn’t a limiting factor. I’ve found one operating past midnight on a notorious stretch where I used to live.

944 Man

1,951 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Aren't they 24 hours? Why wouldn't they be?
Because LIDAR devices werent approved for use in the rain or after dark? That would be a good reason, for a start.

stubert_

88 posts

112 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I have seen camera vans operating in Dundee at 8pm on a sunday night in winter on the A90 Forfar rd, although the Scottish Dibble seem extra keen on speeding compared to the ones local to me (Lancs).

Northampshire start early, I went past one on the A43 north of Kettering at 06:30 a month or so ago.

944 Man

1,951 posts

161 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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There is kit in use that is approved for night use now, certainly. The issue is whether the scamera partnership want to fund night excercises.

Rain drops affect light as it passes through them, even frickin' lasers, so I am not sure whether any of the devices are approved for use in the rain now. They probably shouldnt be, but possibly are.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Bennet said:
What time do mobile cameras tend to start and finish operating?

I appreciate there is probably not one answer for the whole of the UK, but as a general rule... are they in operation at 7am for instance? Or do most begin once the roads are busier?

(If anyone wants specifics, Snakes Pass and Woodhead Pass in Derbyshire are ones I'm particularly interested in.)
Murphy's Law says that there will be one there in operation at the time you don't want it to be there......

twibs

268 posts

167 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I've been over snake at 7am numerous times during the week and never seen any ...however I've seen them in Stoney, Bamford and Hathersage at weekends before 9am.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Looking for early mornng hooners on empty roads. It's about safety don't you know.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Boosted LS1 said:
Looking for early mornng hooners on empty roads. It's about safety don't you know.
That said, don't I recall the most serious accidents tend to be single vehicle crashes on rural A-roads in the dark?

So night time cameras make much more sense than "policing" an inappropriately low 30 limit at lunchtime.

donkmeister

12,837 posts

129 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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944 Man said:
There is kit in use that is approved for night use now, certainly. The issue is whether the scamera partnership want to fund night excercises.

Rain drops affect light as it passes through them, even frickin' lasers, so I am not sure whether any of the devices are approved for use in the rain now. They probably shouldnt be, but possibly are.
If it's any consolation, if the rain was sufficient to cause issues for a LIDAR device, it wouldn't give the operator a speed. The light pulse is coded, essentially it's a data packet, so if it is garbled the data is lost and the device doesn't register it as being received hence no speed.
Think of it like running a PING on a network.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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They often operate during periods when people think they can get away with a blast on the road because they assume they wouldn't be.

InvisibleSpider

167 posts

188 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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944 Man said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Aren't they 24 hours? Why wouldn't they be?
Because LIDAR devices werent approved for use in the rain or after dark? That would be a good reason, for a start.
Come again?

944 Man

1,951 posts

161 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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It is already written in extremely simple language. How can I dumb it down further for you?

Bennet

Original Poster:

2,133 posts

160 months

Friday 7th May 2021
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I'm honestly quite surprised that the PH knowledge pool hasn't come up with much in response to this thread. (Or possibly those in the know don't want to share.)