Police and Crime Commissioner elections
Police and Crime Commissioner elections
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robuk

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2,512 posts

214 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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It is a £70-100k role, but then office staff and costs usually well into the 6 figs on top.

Has your current one done anything decent?

Any groundbreaking candidates out there?

MC Bodge

27,895 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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In Greater Manchester the role is combined with that of the Metropolitan Mayor.

Biker 1

8,411 posts

143 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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No idea who my local one is!
The forthcoming election is between the torys & greens. Not sure what the green candidate would do? Do they even believe in the Police?

Bullett

11,132 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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No idea who ours is or what the actually do. It seems like another level unnecessary political involvement/non job to me.

FunkyNige

9,730 posts

299 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Biker 1 said:
No idea who my local one is!
The forthcoming election is between the torys & greens. Not sure what the green candidate would do? Do they even believe in the Police?
Our lot on paper seem better than the usual failed politicians -
LibDem - A retired head teacher who has lived in north-west Norfolk for more than 15 years.
Indy - An Army Infantry veteran and an ex-Metropolitan Police CID officer.
Tory - A former army officer who served with the Parachute Regiment for 34 years and is a member of the Ministry of Justice's War Pensions and Armed Forces Compensation Tribunal.
Labour - Has worked in education and social work and was Norfolk's former director of children's services between 2015 and 2016, having been assistant director from 2013 to 2015.
Green - Has been a Norwich City Council councillor since 2015 and was former lord mayor of the city.

I would normally go for the Indy as I think the police should have as little to do with party politics as possible, but a quick Google shows he's ex-UKIP “The vast majority of these sexual attacks on women across the country are carried out by migrants, many of them are illegal - African or ethnic minority people." type.

rscott

17,027 posts

215 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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MC Bodge said:
In Greater Manchester the role is combined with that of the Metropolitan Mayor.
In Essex, it's combined to be the 'Police, Fire and Crime Commissioner'. With a bit of luck, that might lead to better integration between services.

Swervin_Mervin

4,884 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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MC Bodge said:
In Greater Manchester the role is combined with that of the Metropolitan Mayor.
Who will then bury a report into the wide-ranging failings of GMP until after the election, calling out anyone who's calling for it's publication now as "playing party politics". Not maybe that it might be important to voters to understand what their PCC's role may have been in those failings...

He'll be a shoe-in again though sadly.

Sheets Tabuer

21,051 posts

239 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Ours has posted a lot on facebook, telling us how hard he is working for us and how much he's achieved.

Doesn't detail what work he's done or achieved but the thought was there I suppose.

blackmme

393 posts

107 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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FunkyNige said:
Our lot on paper seem better than the usual failed politicians -
LibDem - A retired head teacher who has lived in north-west Norfolk for more than 15 years.
Indy - An Army Infantry veteran and an ex-Metropolitan Police CID officer.
Tory - A former army officer who served with the Parachute Regiment for 34 years and is a member of the Ministry of Justice's War Pensions and Armed Forces Compensation Tribunal.
Labour - Has worked in education and social work and was Norfolk's former director of children's services between 2015 and 2016, having been assistant director from 2013 to 2015.
Green - Has been a Norwich City Council councillor since 2015 and was former lord mayor of the city.

I would normally go for the Indy as I think the police should have as little to do with party politics as possible, but a quick Google shows he's ex-UKIP “The vast majority of these sexual attacks on women across the country are carried out by migrants, many of them are illegal - African or ethnic minority people." type.
I'm up in Norfolk as well and some of the Independent Candidates freely stated view's are (ahem) regressive I would say.
I will certainly be voting as I imagine the new PCC will have a significant role in hiring the new Chief Constable.

tangerine_sedge

6,222 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Bullett said:
No idea who ours is or what the actually do. It seems like another level unnecessary political involvement/non job to me.
I'll be writing a short essay along those lines on my ballot paper when I go and vote, like last time.

MC Bodge

27,895 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Swervin_Mervin said:
MC Bodge said:
In Greater Manchester the role is combined with that of the Metropolitan Mayor.
Who will then bury a report into the wide-ranging failings of GMP until after the election, calling out anyone who's calling for it's publication now as "playing party politics". Not maybe that it might be important to voters to understand what their PCC's role may have been in those failings...

He'll be a shoe-in again though sadly.
Candidates booklet

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 4th May 14:13

W124Bob

1,855 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Who will then bury a report into the wide-ranging failings of GMP until after the election, calling out anyone who's calling for it's publication now as "playing party politics". Not maybe that it might be important to voters to understand what their PCC's role may have been in those failings...

He'll be a shoe-in again though sadly.
He's not getting my vote. He's been almost silent for 4 years, gets an extra 12 months in office due to CV and guess what, weekly press conferences.

condor

8,837 posts

272 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Ours has posted a lot on facebook, telling us how hard he is working for us and how much he's achieved.

Doesn't detail what work he's done or achieved but the thought was there I suppose.
Sounds like ours - would that be Festus?
Our last one was I think called Katherine - didn't hear anything about her after she won.

Bedfordshire has the cost of a whole election for what wasn't a job about a decade ago.



55palfers

6,271 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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The current West Midlands PCC won't be getting my vote.

He failed to quietly dispose of the fines handed out to 3 representatives of the families of those killed and injured in the 1974 pub bombings in Birmingham.

3 people held a peaceful and distanced vigil on the anniversary of the murders outside West Mids Police HQ.

These people have been poorly served by West Mids Plod (and HMG) over the years, this just puts the icing on the cake!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-5...

Ms Hambleton is standing for PCC - she has my vote.

Let's hope Human Rights legislation trumps the fines.

Octoposse

2,372 posts

209 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Bullett said:
No idea who ours is or what the actually do. It seems like another level unnecessary political involvement/non job to me.
There has to be some democratic accountability and oversight of Police, and the old Police Authorities had the capacity to be far more ineffective!

Our Police Authority would get very excised and involved in the minutiae of, say, disposing of the odd seized digital camera, but almost everything else would be left to slide. At least our current PCC seems willing to kick a little ass occasionally.

NerveAgent

3,780 posts

244 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Our area is only voting for the Police commissioner on Thursday, no local election.

We haven’t had anything through, I can’t imagine many will bother?

condor

8,837 posts

272 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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NerveAgent said:
Our area is only voting for the Police commissioner on Thursday, no local election.

We haven’t had anything through, I can’t imagine many will bother?
Now you mention it, we didn't get a polling card through either.

Swervin_Mervin

4,884 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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MC Bodge said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
MC Bodge said:
In Greater Manchester the role is combined with that of the Metropolitan Mayor.
Who will then bury a report into the wide-ranging failings of GMP until after the election, calling out anyone who's calling for it's publication now as "playing party politics". Not maybe that it might be important to voters to understand what their PCC's role may have been in those failings...

He'll be a shoe-in again though sadly.
Candidates booklet

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 4th May 14:13
Yeah I've had my booklet. What an inspiring bunch they all are laugh Doesn't seem to include the nutter that's promising to end all fines for anyone in GM though, and an end to the licence fee for all GM residents!

Plymo

1,235 posts

113 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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I would rather the ballot had an option to not have one at all, and save £250 on the council tax bill!

MC Bodge

27,895 posts

199 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Yeah I've had my booklet. What an inspiring bunch they all are laugh Doesn't seem to include the nutter that's promising to end all fines for anyone in GM though, and an end to the licence fee for all GM residents!
He didn't submit the correct nominations, apparently. He still had 1000s of leaflets sent out, though.