The death of ex footballer Dalian Atkinson
The death of ex footballer Dalian Atkinson
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TTmonkey

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20,911 posts

271 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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I remember when Dalian died it was painted as a result of heart failure during an arrest where he was violent and out of control.

But the prosecutors in the murder trial are giving a much different picture.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-5...

Kicking an unconscious man prone on the floor with such force that the boot left an imprint on his head. Since when has this been a police tactic? In the U.K.????

The officers were not assaulted. An yet they are both charged with using excessive force on a man that was incapacitated, both kicking and batoning the prone footballer after he received a totally excessive tazer shock.

Sickening. No indication that there was a racial motive, but I suspect it probably would not have ended like this for a white person lying on the ground.



Edited by TTmonkey on Tuesday 4th May 19:06

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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It certainly doesn't sound very good from what I've read.

In fact it sounds fking awful.

Not that I'd want to be on trial accused of that at any time but given events in the US a couple of weeks ago especially not now.

SydneyBridge

11,058 posts

182 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Tasers are meant to be used in 5 second bursts, did not work twice so overrode it for 30 secs, then the beating started...

Disgrace

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-5...


Evolved

4,064 posts

211 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Awful, some people when they have a uniform on become power mad nutters. Let’s hope justice is served and they end up doing time. They’ll learn what it’s like to have excessive force used on them inside.

ReallyReallyGood

1,641 posts

154 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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30 seconds of tazer sounds horrendous - enough to kill?

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

185 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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grim - not looking good for the cops

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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rover 623gsi said:
grim - not looking good for the cops
Not at all. That's a horrendous series of events, quite honestly. The bloke is clearly a psycho showing off to his bird.

TTmonkey

Original Poster:

20,911 posts

271 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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AJL308 said:
rover 623gsi said:
grim - not looking good for the cops
Not at all. That's a horrendous series of events, quite honestly. The bloke is clearly a psycho showing off to his bird.
Did their management know they were in a relationship at the time? It doesn’t say.

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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TTmonkey said:
AJL308 said:
rover 623gsi said:
grim - not looking good for the cops
Not at all. That's a horrendous series of events, quite honestly. The bloke is clearly a psycho showing off to his bird.
Did their management know they were in a relationship at the time? It doesn’t say.
I was always under the impression that if two cops got together the policy was to separate their shifts at the very least and preferably move them to different stations.

Rh14n

1,070 posts

132 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Whatever the result of this trial is, one has to ask the question why it's taken 5 years to get to trial? If innocent, that's an awful long time to have the stress of this hanging over them.

Bigends

6,031 posts

152 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Rh14n said:
Whatever the result of this trial is, one has to ask the question why it's taken 5 years to get to trial? If innocent, that's an awful long time to have the stress of this hanging over them.
Trials ae taking their time to come to court at the moment. The South Yorks officer who batoned the 17yr old at the footy match in Feb 2020 isnt up for trial until March 2022

Tom1312

1,176 posts

170 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Awful.

Just awful.

mac96

5,785 posts

167 months

Tuesday 4th May 2021
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Tom1312 said:
Awful.

Just awful.
This. At least it's on the BBC News UK front page now, but where has been the outrage?

Of course the officers probably wouldn't have been there in the first place but for the lack of 24/7 mental health services with better training in dealing with people having mental health crises.

XCP

17,608 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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AJL308 said:
I was always under the impression that if two cops got together the policy was to separate their shifts at the very least and preferably move them to different stations.
That may be true these days but I very much doubt it. I had a married couple on my shift. Made the mistake of putting them in the same car once. Never again!

TTmonkey

Original Poster:

20,911 posts

271 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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XCP said:
That may be true these days but I very much doubt it. I had a married couple on my shift. Made the mistake of putting them in the same car once. Never again!
They probably hated it. I would.

Terminator X

19,634 posts

228 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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TTmonkey said:
I remember when Dalian died it was painted as a result of heart failure during an arrest where he was violent and out of control.

But the prosecutors in the murder trial are giving a much different picture.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-5...

Kicking an unconscious man prone on the floor with such force that the boot left an imprint on his head. Since when has this been a police tactic? In the U.K.????

The officers were not assaulted. An yet they are both charged with using excessive force on a man that was incapacitated, both kicking and batoning the prone footballer after he received a totally excessive tazer shock.

Sickening. No indication that there was a racial motive, but I suspect it probably would not have ended like this for a white person lying on the ground.



Edited by TTmonkey on Tuesday 4th May 19:06
Lol just because a person happens to be black doesn't make whatever happened racially motivated. You don't think white people get a kicking from the rozzers?

TX.

XCP

17,608 posts

252 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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TTmonkey said:
XCP said:
That may be true these days but I very much doubt it. I had a married couple on my shift. Made the mistake of putting them in the same car once. Never again!
They probably hated it. I would.
Undoubtedly. Both approached me ( separately) to ask that I never did it again!

PurpleTurtle

8,678 posts

168 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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What we've heard so far is prosecution opening case. They've got an incredible amount of detail, one assumes from bodycam footage?

GranpaB

17,365 posts

60 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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That is really bad from the police and this just adds to the resentment they are getting.

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

15,078 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th May 2021
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Certainly a bit different to what they originally claimed eek