‘Make a Fortune’ Training Courses
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Watching the new series of ‘Rich House, Poor House’ on TV, and it seems all the entrepreneurs featured now run fantastically expensive (£20k in one case) training courses on how to become rich too. These range from real estate development to cosmetic treatments.
My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
I've got friends who have spent tens of thousands chasing dreams. Rick Otton and Darren Winters have both had plenty of cash out of them. I think Rick charged one person £30k to be mentored on lease options, some scam with buying and renting houses.
I was invited to an online seminar by said friend with Rich, it was awful. Terrible advice and very underhand. It's clear the wealth of these people is generated by the idiots paying them.
I was invited to an online seminar by said friend with Rich, it was awful. Terrible advice and very underhand. It's clear the wealth of these people is generated by the idiots paying them.
Edited by RJWR on Saturday 8th May 09:34
67Dino said:
Watching the new series of ‘Rich House, Poor House’ on TV, and it seems all the entrepreneurs featured now run fantastically expensive (£20k in one case) training courses on how to become rich too.
Fastpedeller said:
If the 'scheme' they are telling you about is so good, why are they just not doing it themselves
They are (becoming rich).I've seen a few of these programmes and whilst one 'rich' couple ran such courses, I don't recall the others' occupations. But then, all business is about transferring money from someone else to yourself, whether it's selling training courses, car parts or fruit.
I am impressed though with the people they select from both ends of the scale. It would be easy for one end to be unpleasantly envious and the other to play 'considerably richer than yow!', but they get on.
The new series is all of these scammers. Lots in common with the forex types - see the ones in the unfurnished rental flats (under the guise of being minimalist) with just a laptop for company.
The series used to have people who made their money through honest means, employing people and providing a service/product with value. Now it's mostly scammers selling false hope.
The permanent makeup woman selling courses for 20k a week??? The most legit of the bunch, but 20k a week????!!
The series used to have people who made their money through honest means, employing people and providing a service/product with value. Now it's mostly scammers selling false hope.
The permanent makeup woman selling courses for 20k a week??? The most legit of the bunch, but 20k a week????!!
67Dino said:
Watching the new series of ‘Rich House, Poor House’ on TV, and it seems all the entrepreneurs featured now run fantastically expensive (£20k in one case) training courses on how to become rich too. These range from real estate development to cosmetic treatments.
My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
You need to follow Mike - https://youtu.be/vC5cmW8O3L8My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
The people in my e-commerce sector selling courses are milking the gullible. Particularly how to sell on Amazon where most of my enquiries are what to do as the stock won’t sell.
I started Tiktok to expose these guys as much as I can - like Mike but he’s much more “out there”
See the PH thread “cheap fireworks in Manchester”
DSLiverpool said:
You need to follow Mike - https://youtu.be/vC5cmW8O3L8
The people in my e-commerce sector selling courses are milking the gullible. Particularly how to sell on Amazon where most of my enquiries are what to do as the stock won’t sell.
I started Tiktok to expose these guys as much as I can - like Mike but he’s much more “out there”
See the PH thread “cheap fireworks in Manchester”
Mike is awesome and there are few others who are exposing these fake gurus. The people in my e-commerce sector selling courses are milking the gullible. Particularly how to sell on Amazon where most of my enquiries are what to do as the stock won’t sell.
I started Tiktok to expose these guys as much as I can - like Mike but he’s much more “out there”
See the PH thread “cheap fireworks in Manchester”
I'm also in ecommerce (gone from selling to reviewing platforms etc) and some of the advice out there is shocking, dropshipping and amazon fba are two of the most milked niches within ecommerce.
What is frustrating is the people offer honest advice don't get anywhere near the views as the gurus, but I do have to say that they are pretty good at marketing themselves to be honest!
ctrph said:
Mike is awesome and there are few others who are exposing these fake gurus.
I'm also in ecommerce (gone from selling to reviewing platforms etc) and some of the advice out there is shocking, dropshipping and amazon fba are two of the most milked niches within ecommerce.
What is frustrating is the people offer honest advice don't get anywhere near the views as the gurus, but I do have to say that they are pretty good at marketing themselves to be honest!
Offering the moon on a stick will attract everyone, telling people they need to work hard for the moon is a tougher sell. I'm also in ecommerce (gone from selling to reviewing platforms etc) and some of the advice out there is shocking, dropshipping and amazon fba are two of the most milked niches within ecommerce.
What is frustrating is the people offer honest advice don't get anywhere near the views as the gurus, but I do have to say that they are pretty good at marketing themselves to be honest!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Shapps
Quote "Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/201...
Quote "Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/201...
There was a guy on there called Adam Stott. A guy that sells courses on how to build a big business and get rich. The same guy who's second hand car garage went bust owing millions.
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/big-cars-l...
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/big-cars-l...
Edited by fellatthefirst on Monday 10th May 09:19
A friend of mine worked for one of these guys. Some motivational 'success guru'.
He once asked me to help out on a bit of Photoshopping; adding this bloke's head to that of a properly ripped chap. Thought it was for some office prank but was actually used in his marketing demonstrating that with dedication... yada yada.
Other tricks he revealed to me included performance cars hired to park outside venues. Actors hired to sit amongst real audience members and whip up frenzies of excitement, fake LInkedIn 'connections'.....
He once asked me to help out on a bit of Photoshopping; adding this bloke's head to that of a properly ripped chap. Thought it was for some office prank but was actually used in his marketing demonstrating that with dedication... yada yada.
Other tricks he revealed to me included performance cars hired to park outside venues. Actors hired to sit amongst real audience members and whip up frenzies of excitement, fake LInkedIn 'connections'.....
robuk said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Shapps
Quote "Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/201...
Shapps's web marketing business's 20/20 Challenge publication also drew criticism. It cost $497 and promised customers earnings of $20,000 in 20 days. Upon purchase, the "toolkit" was revealed to be an ebook, advising the user to create their own toolkit and recruit 100 "Joint Venture Partners" to resell it for a share of the profits.Quote "Under the name Michael Green, Shapps had offered customers a "get-rich-quick scheme" costing $497, and promised customers a "toolkit" that would earn them $20,000 in 20 days, provided they followed its instructions."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/201...
67Dino said:
Watching the new series of ‘Rich House, Poor House’ on TV, and it seems all the entrepreneurs featured now run fantastically expensive (£20k in one case) training courses on how to become rich too. These range from real estate development to cosmetic treatments.
My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
hmm, perhaps there is a gap in the market for my soon-to-be-launched course helping to navigate between scams and genuine courses.My immediate reaction is these are a scam, and simply pray on desperate people with an unrealistic promise of easy wealth. But an alternative view is they are a great service, providing business advice, education and mentorship to people who wouldn’t otherwise have access to it.
Has anyone attended this sort of course? Do they ever work?
It's only USD20k, with a 25% discount for 5 referals...
Touchstone Property, the wonderful mysterious world of commercial property. In his world there is no void periods, no problem tenants, only 10 yr leases
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Greg Secker, "The world's leading currency trainer" , spoken quickly it sounds awfully like "trader", each your heart out George Soros and the rest of you multi billionaires, the big money is with Greg, breathing in and out! on YouTube
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Greg Secker, "The world's leading currency trainer" , spoken quickly it sounds awfully like "trader", each your heart out George Soros and the rest of you multi billionaires, the big money is with Greg, breathing in and out! on YouTube
The Mrs likes watching this, it really pisses me off that Chanel 4/5 whatever it’s on, effectively advertises these scam courses and business people on prime time tv .
They always drop enough hints so anyone can find the scammers involved by a bit of internet sleuthing which probably makes skint people feel a bit clever by “finding” them .
It’s all over YouTube , why would a successful property developer not just develop property instead of teaching and creating competition?
One of them offered the “poor” person a job , and now apparently he’s a Gold Trainer and qualified to teach unsuspecting mugs to become property developers.
It’s the old “by my book for £20 and it tells you how to become rich” and in the book it says “write a book with the tile get rich quick & sell it for £20”
They always drop enough hints so anyone can find the scammers involved by a bit of internet sleuthing which probably makes skint people feel a bit clever by “finding” them .
It’s all over YouTube , why would a successful property developer not just develop property instead of teaching and creating competition?
One of them offered the “poor” person a job , and now apparently he’s a Gold Trainer and qualified to teach unsuspecting mugs to become property developers.
It’s the old “by my book for £20 and it tells you how to become rich” and in the book it says “write a book with the tile get rich quick & sell it for £20”
matjk said:
The Mrs likes watching this, it really pisses me off that Chanel 4/5 whatever it’s on, effectively advertises these scam courses and business people on prime time tv .
They always drop enough hints so anyone can find the scammers involved by a bit of internet sleuthing which probably makes skint people feel a bit clever by “finding” them .
It’s all over YouTube , why would a successful property developer not just develop property instead of teaching and creating competition?
One of them offered the “poor” person a job , and now apparently he’s a Gold Trainer and qualified to teach unsuspecting mugs to become property developers.
It’s the old “by my book for £20 and it tells you how to become rich” and in the book it says “write a book with the tile get rich quick & sell it for £20”
^^^^^^^Absolutely spot on^^^^^^^^^^^^^They always drop enough hints so anyone can find the scammers involved by a bit of internet sleuthing which probably makes skint people feel a bit clever by “finding” them .
It’s all over YouTube , why would a successful property developer not just develop property instead of teaching and creating competition?
One of them offered the “poor” person a job , and now apparently he’s a Gold Trainer and qualified to teach unsuspecting mugs to become property developers.
It’s the old “by my book for £20 and it tells you how to become rich” and in the book it says “write a book with the tile get rich quick & sell it for £20”
Simpo Two said:
matjk said:
It’s the old “by my book for £20 and it tells you how to become rich” and in the book it says “write a book with the tile get rich quick & sell it for £20”
You could argue that makes him smarter than us...!Not very moral perhaps, but entirely legal.
Morally doubtful. But then the motivation behind the purchase was perhaps equally so.
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