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Anyone see this pile of tut mascquerading as a motoring programme last night?
For those who missed it, a brief summary:
1, Test Volvo XC90.
Female journo drives big Volvo. Talks to designer. OK, but no real sparkle (later proves to be the high point of the show!)
2 Toyota MR2 made to look like Ferrari F355
Drive round in body kitted MR2 and pretend to crowds its a Fezza. Park up and ask crowd what they think it is. (It's covered in Fezza badges, so what do you think the great unwashed said??
)
3, Find a total moron, sorry, new expert to drive 3 1980s performance cars and give his opinion.
Expert dons leather driving gloves
and proceeds to give his verdict, driving with one hand and exhibiting absolutely NO mechanical sympathy or technical driving skill whatsoever
Expert drives so appalingly badly that he crashes Ford Capri 2.8Inj
Expert drives so appalingly that he crashes MG Maestro Turbo (shagging alloy wheel and bursting tyre - interestingly he blames the car for this)
Expert nearly crashes Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9.
Expert declares all three cars too dangerous to be used on public roads today!
The only thing dangerous on the road was HIM!
Another motoring prgramme up the Swanneee. Just hope Drivvle is better tonite!
Andy 400se
For those who missed it, a brief summary:
1, Test Volvo XC90.
Female journo drives big Volvo. Talks to designer. OK, but no real sparkle (later proves to be the high point of the show!)
2 Toyota MR2 made to look like Ferrari F355
Drive round in body kitted MR2 and pretend to crowds its a Fezza. Park up and ask crowd what they think it is. (It's covered in Fezza badges, so what do you think the great unwashed said??
) 3, Find a total moron, sorry, new expert to drive 3 1980s performance cars and give his opinion.
Expert dons leather driving gloves
and proceeds to give his verdict, driving with one hand and exhibiting absolutely NO mechanical sympathy or technical driving skill whatsoever Expert drives so appalingly badly that he crashes Ford Capri 2.8Inj
Expert drives so appalingly that he crashes MG Maestro Turbo (shagging alloy wheel and bursting tyre - interestingly he blames the car for this)
Expert nearly crashes Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9.
Expert declares all three cars too dangerous to be used on public roads today!
The only thing dangerous on the road was HIM!
Another motoring prgramme up the Swanneee. Just hope Drivvle is better tonite!
Andy 400se
I also watched this programme. I quite enjoyed the masquerade with the MR355F1 - 2 Toyferotararri thing.
But that donut in the Maestro/205/Capri was a total crocus. He takes out a reasonably high performance car, drives it at speed onto a wet surface, chucks it unsympathetically from full left to full right lock and then wonders why he loses control - and blames it on the car anyway.
What did he expect? If I'd had a small anti-tank weapon in the lounge the TV would have got it last night...

But that donut in the Maestro/205/Capri was a total crocus. He takes out a reasonably high performance car, drives it at speed onto a wet surface, chucks it unsympathetically from full left to full right lock and then wonders why he loses control - and blames it on the car anyway.
What did he expect? If I'd had a small anti-tank weapon in the lounge the TV would have got it last night...

Expert, EXPERT - that bloke was a prize TWAT!
Yank wheel left, unbalance car, yank right and lift off - Oooh, dangerous handling - KNOB!!!!!
As for the tyre burst on the MG, well DUH, did you see the dip he smacked it into.
It was without doubt the worst drivel I've seen on TV for a long time.
Yank wheel left, unbalance car, yank right and lift off - Oooh, dangerous handling - KNOB!!!!!
As for the tyre burst on the MG, well DUH, did you see the dip he smacked it into.
It was without doubt the worst drivel I've seen on TV for a long time.

I was embarassed to watch it!
I had an MR2 turbo, and never dreamed of spending god knows how many 1000's trying to make it look like a bad copy of a Ferrari. You just don't do it.
It was a close contest trying to determine which of the 2 occupants was the bigger kn0b. Cheap and nasty my wife said...not sure if she was referring to the car or the owner.
And last week's show they were hyping so much about the Enzo, and then only gave it 30secs air time....


What a waste of 30 minutes of my life.
I had an MR2 turbo, and never dreamed of spending god knows how many 1000's trying to make it look like a bad copy of a Ferrari. You just don't do it.
It was a close contest trying to determine which of the 2 occupants was the bigger kn0b. Cheap and nasty my wife said...not sure if she was referring to the car or the owner.
And last week's show they were hyping so much about the Enzo, and then only gave it 30secs air time....



What a waste of 30 minutes of my life.
Only caught the MR2/Rarri bit, and the nod driver bit.
The MR2 Rarri kit car really needed to park it next to a real one to highlight the differences which as they drove past a Rarri dealership wouldn't have been too difficult
And I imagine all the blokes that said when asked 'whats this then' they answered it's a tarted up MR2 trying to look like a rarri ended up on the cutting room floor
As for the nob, he should be made to walk everywhere, he was just going look if I swerve really hard the car spins, well Doh! We would never have guessed, and as the cars were obviously not his, he should have shown a bit more respect to someones pride and joy, even if it is a Meastro Turbo
If he'd put my car in the hedge he would be greeted with a large slap and I hope the alloy and tyre bill came out his pocket, 
The MR2 Rarri kit car really needed to park it next to a real one to highlight the differences which as they drove past a Rarri dealership wouldn't have been too difficult
And I imagine all the blokes that said when asked 'whats this then' they answered it's a tarted up MR2 trying to look like a rarri ended up on the cutting room floor
As for the nob, he should be made to walk everywhere, he was just going look if I swerve really hard the car spins, well Doh! We would never have guessed, and as the cars were obviously not his, he should have shown a bit more respect to someones pride and joy, even if it is a Meastro Turbo
If he'd put my car in the hedge he would be greeted with a large slap and I hope the alloy and tyre bill came out his pocket, 
I dunno why you guys persist in watching these pathetic attempts to engage the moron public which time & time again patently fail to consider the enthusiast...
if I'd seen it and had the name of that nobber bloke though, I'd be half way though an email now telling him that he should be removed from the gene pool with a rusty spoon..
if I'd seen it and had the name of that nobber bloke though, I'd be half way though an email now telling him that he should be removed from the gene pool with a rusty spoon..
I couldn't help but to email them:
I'd just like to say what a complete load of tripe your so called "80's car test" was. Anyone who barrels into a damp corner, flicks the wheel one way then yanks it the other is GUARANTEED to get the tail to swing round with a huge dose of oversteer. Go on, try it in a Ferrari Enzo or suchlike - the same thing will happen. What a load of biaised nonsense.
It's not the cars that are dangerous, it's the distinct lack of driving talent displayed by your so called 'presenter'.
As for the MR2/355 kit car segment. How many people said "Well, it's an MR2 isn't it you berk". Needless to say, they didn't make it to the online did they?
There's enough motoring rubbish on the TV these days without dumbing it down even more. If you want to attract an audience of genuine enthusiasts rather than couch-bound muppets, I suggest you take a long hard look at your content.
For the record, I hold a National 'A' competition licence and race regularly in the 750 Motor Club Locost championship. I drive an Isuzu Trooper, TVR 460SE, Ultima GTR and ride a Yamaha R1 and DT200WR enduro bike and am the grand age of 32 (not some wheezy coffin dodger who gets wound up by anything motoring/speed related). So I think I have at least some qualification to comment.
I'd just like to say what a complete load of tripe your so called "80's car test" was. Anyone who barrels into a damp corner, flicks the wheel one way then yanks it the other is GUARANTEED to get the tail to swing round with a huge dose of oversteer. Go on, try it in a Ferrari Enzo or suchlike - the same thing will happen. What a load of biaised nonsense.
It's not the cars that are dangerous, it's the distinct lack of driving talent displayed by your so called 'presenter'.
As for the MR2/355 kit car segment. How many people said "Well, it's an MR2 isn't it you berk". Needless to say, they didn't make it to the online did they?
There's enough motoring rubbish on the TV these days without dumbing it down even more. If you want to attract an audience of genuine enthusiasts rather than couch-bound muppets, I suggest you take a long hard look at your content.
For the record, I hold a National 'A' competition licence and race regularly in the 750 Motor Club Locost championship. I drive an Isuzu Trooper, TVR 460SE, Ultima GTR and ride a Yamaha R1 and DT200WR enduro bike and am the grand age of 32 (not some wheezy coffin dodger who gets wound up by anything motoring/speed related). So I think I have at least some qualification to comment.
The Capri/Maestor thing started with something like
"Here's the new Jag, performance and the handling to go with it"...
Let's compare this >£20k car with some stuff joe public can pick up for about £500
Let's get it into a slide and then take our hands off the steering wheel. Ooh look how dangerous this car is !
As Angus said....Give us a "K"
A high power/handling ratio is what makes a car good IMHO of course
If the capri was really dangerous he wouldn't have walked away from his "horrific" accident which would have been a better result for all concerned
"Here's the new Jag, performance and the handling to go with it"...
Let's compare this >£20k car with some stuff joe public can pick up for about £500
Let's get it into a slide and then take our hands off the steering wheel. Ooh look how dangerous this car is !
As Angus said....Give us a "K"
A high power/handling ratio is what makes a car good IMHO of course
If the capri was really dangerous he wouldn't have walked away from his "horrific" accident which would have been a better result for all concerned
I watched *a* pulling power last night. But it featured a Jag S-type R, a citroen C3 and a powerboat......
Bloody reagional variations. This one was just as bad as yours sounded.
Testy boy turns the DSC off, lobs nearly 2 tons of car into a hair pin and flattens the throttle. Rear tyres light up, massive oversteer, gets a tank slapper on and loses it. This is the cars fault how exactly?
He proceeded to complain it had too many buttons and a minidisc player when he had CDs. I suspect that for 50K, Jaguar will fit whatever you want music wise.....
Muppets. They complained that the C3 interior was a bit cheap. That's because it's a cheap and cheeful little car.....
Bloody reagional variations. This one was just as bad as yours sounded.
Testy boy turns the DSC off, lobs nearly 2 tons of car into a hair pin and flattens the throttle. Rear tyres light up, massive oversteer, gets a tank slapper on and loses it. This is the cars fault how exactly?
He proceeded to complain it had too many buttons and a minidisc player when he had CDs. I suspect that for 50K, Jaguar will fit whatever you want music wise.....
Muppets. They complained that the C3 interior was a bit cheap. That's because it's a cheap and cheeful little car.....
I watched The Matrix so missed it... Am I correct in saying that Gail Porter no longer works for Pulling Power? She's what made Pulling Power worth watching
As for the fake ferrari, it's really easy to spot that its not real... look side on and the design is not "balanced"... it just looks too short and too tall... Pininfarina should sue!
>> Edited by shadowninja on Friday 11th October 13:30
As for the fake ferrari, it's really easy to spot that its not real... look side on and the design is not "balanced"... it just looks too short and too tall... Pininfarina should sue!
>> Edited by shadowninja on Friday 11th October 13:30
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