HPI mileage history problem on our PX valuation
HPI mileage history problem on our PX valuation
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buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Agreed a PX deal with garage. Collected the new car.
Got a call from trader that an HPI discrepancy had flagged up, so our PX vehicle was now worth £1200 less than we had agreed.
Went back to garage and was shown the HPI report which showed a mileage discrepancy.
The trader suggested that the mileage may have been entered incorrectly during an MOT.
Nothing could be done to address the problem or amend the HPI history.
In the end we split the difference on PX value.

Any experience of this guys?
Can I prevent my new car HPI history being messed up in the future?

anonymous-user

82 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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It seems like the trader has properly had you over IMO. It was down to them to check the HPI report before the deal was done, if they didn't do their due diligence before they accepted your trade in and you took your new car away then that's their issue.

selym

9,581 posts

199 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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If they didn't do the HPI prior to releasing the new car that's an oversight on their part.

buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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That was my thoughts.
However despite that we did end up with a damn good PX valuation, although 500 quid less than we started.

Drive Blind

5,752 posts

205 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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sorry OP, you've been done.

The trader made a mistake, he should have paid the price for that not you.

Is the mileage discrepancy easy spotted on the online dvla mot check ?

Monkeylegend

29,060 posts

259 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Out of interest how big was the mileage discrepancy?


Drive Blind

5,752 posts

205 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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and to avoid this situation in the future, verify your mileage is correctly recorded at service and MOT time.

Trevor555

5,371 posts

112 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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Was this garage a small independent?

Or a larger dealership with a head office?

Trevor555

5,371 posts

112 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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buddys dad said:
The trader suggested that the mileage may have been entered incorrectly during an MOT.
Nothing could be done to address the problem or amend the HPI history.
Is there an MOT tester on here that can comment on that?

I'm sure I've heard of an MOT station amending a mistake.

buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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[quote=Trevor555]Was this garage a small independent?

Or a larger dealership with a head office?[/quote

Small indie

Trevor555

5,371 posts

112 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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buddys dad said:
Trevor555 said:
Was this garage a small independent?

Or a larger dealership with a head office?[/quote

Small indie
Ok, no one to complain to then.

Annoying, but move on and enjoy your new car.

maz8062

3,872 posts

243 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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buddys dad said:
Agreed a PX deal with garage. Collected the new car.
Got a call from trader that an HPI discrepancy had flagged up, so our PX vehicle was now worth £1200 less than we had agreed.
Went back to garage and was shown the HPI report which showed a mileage discrepancy.
The trader suggested that the mileage may have been entered incorrectly during an MOT.
Nothing could be done to address the problem or amend the HPI history.
In the end we split the difference on PX value.

Any experience of this guys?
Can I prevent my new car HPI history being messed up in the future?
You sir, are an honest member of society. To agree a px (which likely would have been at the dealer’s benefit) collect the car and then be asked to fork out £1200 after the event - most people would have held on to the funds and argued the toss with the dealer and HPI, whilst hanging onto the car and enjoying driving it.

Good on you because what goes around, comes around.

buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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maz8062 said:
You sir, are an honest member of society. To agree a px (which likely would have been at the dealer’s benefit) collect the car and then be asked to fork out £1200 after the event - most people would have held on to the funds and argued the toss with the dealer and HPI, whilst hanging onto the car and enjoying driving it.

Good on you because what goes around, comes around.
Cheers Maz biggrin

Split the diffrence with dealer so it cost us 500 quid.
Still came out the other side with an excellent PX value.
One thing I've learnt in retail is to compromise.

The lesson learnt is to check DVLA MOT mileage site soon after each MOT.
If the mechanic has entered the mileage incorrectly you have 14 days to amend it.
After that its on your pride & joys HPI file for ever!

Trevor555

5,371 posts

112 months

Friday 21st May 2021
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buddys dad said:
The lesson learnt is to check DVLA MOT mileage site soon after each MOT.
If the mechanic has entered the mileage incorrectly you have 14 days to amend it.
After that its on your pride & joys HPI file for ever!
And you suffer a loss as a result of their mistake?

I'd like to hear a legal persons view of that.

BlueC2

74 posts

235 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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I would have maintained that the value of the car was still the same.

Look to establish that the mileage of the car is correct and demonstrate where the discrepancy was.

fflump

3,446 posts

66 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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They should have given you the opportunity to rectify the discrepancy.
It happened to me, a garage was assessing my car for p/x value (as yours should have done before valuing) they ran an HPI check and found a discrepancy, so let me know. What you do then is get your own check, then call HPI to tell them of the error. In my case HPI were happy simply by me emailing them the stamped service booklet with the mileage apparent, they wiped the discrepancy flag.

Monkeylegend

29,060 posts

259 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
Out of interest how big was the mileage discrepancy?
I see OP hasn't commented on this.

On the basis the dealer reduced the part ex value presumably the cars actual mileage was higher than they originally thought or were led to believe when the original part ex value was offered.

Just wondering if the OP found out about the discrepancy at the same time as the dealer. If not maybe that was why he was willing to readily accept the lower figure.

Maybe I should mind my own business smile

Drive Blind

5,752 posts

205 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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maybe I'm just too cynical, but what's the bets the OP's trade in will surface at a trader for top dollar, HPI clear with 'VOSA warranted mileage' ?

scratchchin

buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
I see OP hasn't commented on this.

On the basis the dealer reduced the part ex value presumably the cars actual mileage was higher than they originally thought or were led to believe when the original part ex value was offered.

Just wondering if the OP found out about the discrepancy at the same time as the dealer. If not maybe that was why he was willing to readily accept the lower figure.

Maybe I should mind my own business smile
Maybe you should avoid speculation biggrin

If clarification be needed:

Dealer flagged up HPI mileage discrepancy.
Dealer stated that this cannot now be challenged.
Paid dealer £500 as a compromise.
We still got a good trade in price.

On Monday will contact HPI as we have cast iron MOT certificates and online MOT records that confirm mileages to be correct.
Will see if an appeal is possible.







buddys dad

Original Poster:

121 posts

100 months

Saturday 22nd May 2021
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Drive Blind said:
maybe I'm just too cynical, but what's the bets the OP's trade in will surface at a trader for top dollar, HPI clear with 'VOSA warranted mileage' ?

scratchchin
Will be checking if this be the case
Suspect it is