Do speed cameras cause accidents?
Discussion
I saw that there had been an accident on the A1 at Beeston yesterday, I came along after it had happend so I don't know if it had anything at all to do with the new speed camera that had been installed on the footbridge about 75-100 yards further on, by some one just realizing they were there and braking hard, or not. There used to be another single camera situated 150-200 yards approx further north just comming into Beeston, it was situated in the center reservation untill fairley recently, it used to be occasionaly turned arround so it served either north or south bound traffic,although the police still used mobile cameras, A while ago that was taken down and there was nothing there. although the police still used mobile cameras just pass in either direction, now there is two new cameras set up so they can get you both ways at the same time, and still have the mobile ones now and then.(must be TAX COLLECTORS)
I doubt if the Police would admit that any of their ACCIDENT Reduction methods would or has ever caused an accident. Do any members know for sure if speed cameras have ever caused accidents?
I doubt if the Police would admit that any of their ACCIDENT Reduction methods would or has ever caused an accident. Do any members know for sure if speed cameras have ever caused accidents?
NO, If you were travelling at (or below) the legal speed limit you wouldn't have to slam on the break to avoid a few points, And you'd probably have an accident just down the road anyway!!!
There is a jucntion by me that used to have almost weekly (or it seemed like it!) accidents, but since the camera has been there there has, to the best of my knowledge, not been 1, accept for when some idiot put a tyre over it, filled it with petrol and set fire to it, It was obvious that camrera was needed but some people are to stupid to work that out, Oh the road was shut for about 4 hours due to a serious accident which probably wouldn't have happened if the camera was not vandalised, It is back now though
There is a jucntion by me that used to have almost weekly (or it seemed like it!) accidents, but since the camera has been there there has, to the best of my knowledge, not been 1, accept for when some idiot put a tyre over it, filled it with petrol and set fire to it, It was obvious that camrera was needed but some people are to stupid to work that out, Oh the road was shut for about 4 hours due to a serious accident which probably wouldn't have happened if the camera was not vandalised, It is back now though
I would completely agree with the last post. When I see a big yellow camera I instinctively hit the brake and then check what speed I am going (and then check the rear-view mirror).
This may be wrong but it is instinct and I seem to have no way of changing it. It may be to do with my last set of three points where I was travelling along a piece of dual carriageway overtaking a huge lorry. Just caught the glimpse of a yellow box so touched the brake, realised I was only doing 65 so carried on. The camera then flashed seconds before I saw the 50 sign AFTER the scamera!
Before everyone starts it was a nice piece of dual carriageway with no junctions etc and not particularly busy (even though it was 8:45amon a monday morning!) so to this day I have no idea why it would be a 50 zone. Presumably because it generates more revenue!!
This may be wrong but it is instinct and I seem to have no way of changing it. It may be to do with my last set of three points where I was travelling along a piece of dual carriageway overtaking a huge lorry. Just caught the glimpse of a yellow box so touched the brake, realised I was only doing 65 so carried on. The camera then flashed seconds before I saw the 50 sign AFTER the scamera!
Before everyone starts it was a nice piece of dual carriageway with no junctions etc and not particularly busy (even though it was 8:45amon a monday morning!) so to this day I have no idea why it would be a 50 zone. Presumably because it generates more revenue!!
Bad driving or a failure of the vehicle in some way causes accidents. Speed cameras contribute to the accident because numpty drivers don't want the road instead.
Remove the cameras = one less cause
Remove the bad drivers = many less causes
I hate speed cameras, but if people drove properly in the first place then speed cameras might not have been introduced.
Of course it is rather stup1d of the government to introduce another contribution into the mix.
all IMHO.
Remove the cameras = one less cause
Remove the bad drivers = many less causes
I hate speed cameras, but if people drove properly in the first place then speed cameras might not have been introduced.
Of course it is rather stup1d of the government to introduce another contribution into the mix.
all IMHO.
targarama said:
if people drove properly in the first place then speed cameras might not have been introduced.
Huh?
We had the safest roads in the world, and still steadily falling fatality figures.
And then they introduced sCams:
The fatality figures first flatlined.
Then spread of speed cameras became more rapid:
The trend appeared to be reversing.
Then last year we had a record low:
That should have been achieved in the last century on pre-sCam trends!
Which would have given us fatality figures around a thousand pa lower than we have curently!
Now we hear that there had been a moratorium on new speed camera instalations last year.
Which explains why the figures are back on trend, albeit at a higher level than they would have been were it not for the sCams.
When are they going to start prosecuting sCam supporters for Murder?!
Thanks for the replies so far , with a count up of for and against scams being the cause, it is obviouse the majority think as I do that they cause most people to slam on the brakes regardless of whether or not they are speeding, this has got to be very dangerous, by the way I try to keep within the limits I am usually 10 miles or so under but there are times I find that I am over, going downhill or overtaking something slow.
speed cameras do initally reduce speed. drivers the reduce the amout of attention paid to the road as they are going slower.
also pedestrians are getting the message that they can do what they want and the motorist is to blame
traffic is bunching up as no one dare over take a slower car as there may be a mobile speed trap round the corner.
a few weeks a go I travelled along a very long 30 mph section with loads of cameras and red light cams. An ambulance pulled out on blues but no siren. I am ashamed to say I was at half concentration and would have hit him but for the ABS....
In the area I live most of the roads are 40 as it is a national park. When you go on the 60 mph trunk roads many of the older locals trundle along at 40 because the are not paying attention and have gone to sleep. It is not good!
Personally I think speed cameras are contributing to the accident stats in a negitive way.
also pedestrians are getting the message that they can do what they want and the motorist is to blame
traffic is bunching up as no one dare over take a slower car as there may be a mobile speed trap round the corner.
a few weeks a go I travelled along a very long 30 mph section with loads of cameras and red light cams. An ambulance pulled out on blues but no siren. I am ashamed to say I was at half concentration and would have hit him but for the ABS....
In the area I live most of the roads are 40 as it is a national park. When you go on the 60 mph trunk roads many of the older locals trundle along at 40 because the are not paying attention and have gone to sleep. It is not good!
Personally I think speed cameras are contributing to the accident stats in a negitive way.
I don't believe they cause accidents due to knee-jerk reactions anymore -- not since they all had to be painted yellow and unhidden.
Though I believe they're having a indirect detrimental effect by causing drivers to spend more time watching their speedos than the roads and by creating an illusion of safety that anything up to the posted speed limit is safe.
The A14 between Huntingdon and Cambridge has five speed cameras on it. I think it averages eight accidents a week at the moment.
Though I believe they're having a indirect detrimental effect by causing drivers to spend more time watching their speedos than the roads and by creating an illusion of safety that anything up to the posted speed limit is safe.
The A14 between Huntingdon and Cambridge has five speed cameras on it. I think it averages eight accidents a week at the moment.
Speed Cameras are not fully understood (hence people brake suddenly in many cases even when under the speed limit).
I think they cause accidents too because a lot of people spend too much time keeping an eye out for them rather than on the road itself!
I am against them full stop. It doesn't take a genius to work out that you don't drive passed a school at kicking out time at 70mph. Why can we not be treated like adults?
I think they cause accidents too because a lot of people spend too much time keeping an eye out for them rather than on the road itself!
I am against them full stop. It doesn't take a genius to work out that you don't drive passed a school at kicking out time at 70mph. Why can we not be treated like adults?
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