NOT Mr. Cool

[Mr Cerbera]

Dear All,

In my search to remove the AirCon from BlackBeauty© I have realised that I haven't a clue what I'm doing.

Please bear with me as I try to explain my predicament....

I managed to remove the Water Radiator (practiced sevral times before) but what I thought to be a screen (to resist damage to it from objects thrown up from the road) turns out to be ANOTHER Radiator....



What on Earth does this cool ?
Is it for the AC or for the Oil.

Once removed, I could see the 3rd radiator.



I am assuming (Doh !) that Rad 02 is AC. If it is, then where does this Pipe go to ?
It currently disappears above the Left Wing - I thought Left Wing components were for the Heating System.



When I start the Motor is there gonna be anything puking out of this pipe ?

Whilst trying to trace the path of this pipe, I removed the front left wheel and found a dirty great big hole in the Inner Arch.



It is directly behind the headlamp thus exposing all the wiring to the crap which is thrown from the front, left wheel.

I removed the protective panels from both arches and have found a BIG difference.....



Do you know if you have the same set-up ?

If so, do you know the purpose of the different left-hand cutaway ?

Many thanks for persisting with this tome and double thanks for ABSOLUTELY ANY ideas you can give me.

Ta !

PJ

[Flatplane8]

The skinny/wide black radiator is the A/C condenser. The short fat small radiator on the passenger side is the oil cooler. The rest I'm afraid I don't know.

[Y194 ODX]

Hello Paul,

The "what is this one for?" ist the Air-conditioning condenser, should be part no. TVR P0165. The cutout on your left hand inner arch was presumably done by one of the previous owners. For sure I can say: On my car the left side looks exactly equal to the right side.

Cheers
Ulf

[Imran999]

The AC radiator (condenser) has a hose going into the near side wing where it connects to the receiver/dryer (black vertical canister, secured to the inner wheel arch with two bolts).

Here's a useful thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[ukkid35]

Mr Cerbera said:

I removed the protective panels from both arches and have found a BIG difference.....

That looks like a washer bottle on the driver's side, never seen that before

Is that standard on later cars?

[Quroll]

In my car 2000, inner arch:

Right side washer bottle
Left side aircon dryer

[TwinKam]

Quroll said:

In my car 2000, inner arch:

Right side washer bottle
Left side aircon dryer

Intetesting, learn something every day!
So when exactly was 'hot screenwash delete' introduced?

[camel_landy]

TwinKam said:

'hot screenwash'

M

[Mr Cerbera]

Thanks Simon and Quroll for the confirmations.

Ulf,
Thanks for the confirmation on the Ineer Arch Cutouts.
Guess I'll have to get busy with the Fibreglass resin
(I should book my appointment for the visit to A&E now)

Imran, Brilliant Link to a good breakdown by tofts & Penelope Stopit's Diagrams.
Also THanks for pointing out that the pipe goes directly to the Drier. I didn't read that correctly the first time but have since found the trail of piping and its connection method to the Unit

Re-posted PS's diagrams for anyone else with a similar problem, below....

Penelope Stopit said:

The in pipe comes from the condenser....

Paul, on the later cars, the F1 panel has a plastic filler cap in the front, driver's side.
This connects to a ribbed, flexible pipe which then goes into Washer bottle in the bottom of the
front RHS wing.

Sorry Rik and Mark,
didn't understand the humour
BUT
Can also let you know that I think that the Evaporator / Expansion Valve is hidden behind the panel behind the Driver's wheel.

Onward and Upward

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Wednesday 26th May 21:34

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 1st June 11:39

[TwinKam]

Paul.
It's a good thing to have a screenwash reservoir sited in the engine bay, where it can enjoy the cosy radiant heat of the engine. This means the water rarely freezes, and as a bonus the pump is readily accessible.
But nowadays, the standard position is in an inner wing void or behind the front 'bumper', a great use of unused space, but cold, possibly even icily cold places. And a pita to access.
The hot air generated by the Cerb's rad (or indeed three rads as you've just discovered), passes under the F1 panel and... on pre 2000(?) models, warms the screenwash reservoir. As that is an otherwise unused space, it's a damn good place to have it.
So it was a surprise to learn that later models have it located in a cold and inaccessible space. Seems a retrograde step to me.
Who remembers the craze of gaining additional heat in the screenwash by wrapping the tube around the top rad hose half a dozen turns?

[Mr Cerbera]

Wow Rik,
that is a very full and accurate description. Thanks
You don't have, by any chance, a pic of the layout of the series I windscreen washer bottle do you
Coz I don't use my F1 panel and have been thinking of filling up that space with loadsa Catch Tanks
Ta !
PJ

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Thursday 27th May 08:39

[TwinKam]

It's a poor design Paul, The strap just bends when tightened, it would be better made from angle.

Edited by TwinKam on Thursday 27th May 15:05

[TwinKam]

It just clamps across these two diagonal above the rack

[TwinKam]

And the bottle drops in so, the neck sticks through a hole in the F1 panel

[Mr Cerbera]

Thanks for that

I always wondered what that was...