Coolant running temperature

Coolant running temperature

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MattPlaneCrank

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107 posts

52 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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What temperature do 4.5s normally run at? Mine is between 85 and 95 degrees. The fans don’t come on until it reaches 95 which seems a bit hot. I’ve got an all aluminium radiator fitted. scratchchin

aide

2,277 posts

178 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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88 according to Al.

Imran999

363 posts

167 months

Thursday 27th May 2021
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They do run quite hot, 85-95 is exactly the operating range that I observe, with an increase up to 100 (and beyond) in 30 degree weather and traffic.

As far as I know, the ECU has its own temperature sensor/sender and the dash-gauge has it’s own. My dash gauge over-reads (compared the ECU sensor) by 3-4 degrees (and the needle can be erratic).

There are two radiator fans, the first comes on at 90 degrees and the second at 95 degrees (ECU temperature).

Joolz (Kits and classics) offers a reprogrammed ECU chip which brings the fan thresholds down by a few degrees. And some owners fit an override switch (under the dash) for the second fan, allowing at-will operation.

As long as the coolant mix is correct, the boiling-point will be 130degC or higher. Couple that with the fact that the dash gauge over-reads, and seeing 100 degrees shouldn’t cause too much alarm.

Of course, you could just turn off your AC, not all of us have (working) AC, you know…
;-)

Edited by Imran999 on Friday 28th May 00:06

MattPlaneCrank

Original Poster:

107 posts

52 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Thanks Imran, I was going off the ECU temperature indicated on my MBE tool. The fans don’t appear to operate separately assuming this is displayed accurately. I’ll have to investigate further.

Mr Cerbera

5,127 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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Fitted Joolz's CoolChip (can't remember the reduction rate)
BUT
She has never exceeded 100 since
(...and, Yes, the ECU programming is designed to bring the two fans in at separate temps - separated by 5° iirc)

Ring Joolz he'll give you accurate info thumbup

ukkid35

6,341 posts

187 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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If the car is moving fast enough and the ambient temps are cool enough, the coolant temp will never go significantly over the thermostat opening temp, say 85 deg

In the real word that means the coolant temps will easily exceeded 105 deg when the car is stuck in traffic on a hot day

I've watched that needle move erratically far more than most and it is truly disturbing

Especially when parts fail and you have to try to rescue the situation

If your rad or thermostat is old and misbehaving then good luck


Mr Cerbera

5,127 posts

244 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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Just one little memory to amuse you....

When I first bought BlackBeauty©, I had no idea what was going on so I just drove her, as you do !
It didn't dawn on me that she never rose above 75° - I thought "Wow, this is one, cool Motor " - in every sense of the word wink

Then I took her to Joolz, he took her out for 10 mins, returned and said "Your Thermostat is jammed open !"
.... and that was after 3 years of official TVR servicing !! yikes

He threw one in as part of the CoolChip upgrade - Wotta Man thumbup

gruffalo

7,849 posts

240 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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ukkid35 said:
If the car is moving fast enough and the ambient temps are cool enough, the coolant temp will never go significantly over the thermostat opening temp, say 85 deg

In the real word that means the coolant temps will easily exceeded 105 deg when the car is stuck in traffic on a hot day

I've watched that needle move erratically far more than most and it is truly disturbing

Especially when parts fail and you have to try to rescue the situation

If your rad or thermostat is old and misbehaving then good luck
I have never seen mine get to 105, I have the digital temp gauge and I think the hottest it has got to is about 98 on a very hot day.


pmessling

2,308 posts

217 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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What you have to remember is that the boiling point of water under pressure is greater than at atmospheric pressure, so even if the car reaches 100-110 it's still relatively safe, most coolant system will let pressure off around 20psi at the expansion bottle cap.

But we all know just drive faster so that the radiator gets more flow. Ha ha ha

MattPlaneCrank

Original Poster:

107 posts

52 months

Friday 4th June 2021
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I did some more checks and the first fan comes on at 91 and the second at 94 degrees which seems good. Diving faster works even better though hehe