Hong Kong votes in new "Patriots" law

[rodericb]

I can't find any of the existing threads about Hong Kong (!) hence this new thread. Hong Kong parliament have passed a bill introducing reforms were electoral candidates have to be approved, lest they be unpatriotic.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57236775

[Andeh1]

And people worry climate change is the biggest threat we face.

[Jinx]

Andeh1 said:

And people worry climate change is the biggest threat we face.

We've always been at war with global warming climate change. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree.

[ReallyReallyGood]

Tragic to see what’s happening in HK, it was one of if not the best city I’ve ever visited, can’t see myself ever going again.

[Randy Winkman]

Jinx said:

Andeh1 said:

And people worry climate change is the biggest threat we face.

We've always been at war with global warming climate change. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree.

Exactly. If people don't agree that climate change is an issue that's fine with me. I'm not sure it's 100% clear-cut. But surely they accept that if that's the consensus it's much more important than political issues in one small part of the world?

[Zstar]

ReallyReallyGood said:

Tragic to see what’s happening in HK, it was one of if not the best city I’ve ever visited, can’t see myself ever going again.

I spent 3 months there in 2008, and 2 years in 2017-19, it’s absolutely tragic what’s happening. Most of our friends have now left, and I give it 20 years before it’s a second class Chinese city

[Vickers_VC10]

Zstar said:

ReallyReallyGood said:

Tragic to see what’s happening in HK, it was one of if not the best city I’ve ever visited, can’t see myself ever going again.

I spent 3 months there in 2008, and 2 years in 2017-19, it’s absolutely tragic what’s happening. Most of our friends have now left, and I give it 20 years before it’s a second class Chinese city

I went in 2011. I wouldn't say best. Is say heavily polluted and heavy populated, certainly no rush to go back. I much preferred Singapore.

[Condi]

Vickers_VC10 said:

I went in 2011. I wouldn't say best. Is say heavily polluted and heavy populated, certainly no rush to go back. I much preferred Singapore.

And its far too fecking hot!

[poo at Paul's]

Vickers_VC10 said:

Zstar said:

ReallyReallyGood said:

Tragic to see what’s happening in HK, it was one of if not the best city I’ve ever visited, can’t see myself ever going again.

I spent 3 months there in 2008, and 2 years in 2017-19, it’s absolutely tragic what’s happening. Most of our friends have now left, and I give it 20 years before it’s a second class Chinese city

I went in 2011. I wouldn't say best. Is say heavily polluted and heavy populated, certainly no rush to go back. I much preferred Singapore.

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

[Vanden Saab]

poo at Paul's said:

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

[Murph7355]

Vanden Saab said:

poo at Paul's said:

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

A regular in Wan Chai, evidently

[Cold]

Meanwhile, 7000 police have been tasked with enforcing a ban on protests on Friday for the Tiananmen Square anniversary.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/hong...

[Tom Logan]

Vanden Saab said:

poo at Paul's said:

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

Apt log in name too !!

[pincher]

Murph7355 said:

Vanden Saab said:

poo at Paul's said:

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

A regular in Wan Chai, evidently

[skyrover]

Randy Winkman said:

Jinx said:

Andeh1 said:

And people worry climate change is the biggest threat we face.

We've always been at war with global warming climate change. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree.

Exactly. If people don't agree that climate change is an issue that's fine with me. I'm not sure it's 100% clear-cut. But surely they accept that if that's the consensus it's much more important than political issues in one small part of the world?

A consensus like how human Covid originated in a Chinese wet market?

[anonymous-user]

pincher said:

Murph7355 said:

Vanden Saab said:

poo at Paul's said:

Shame you guys never went in the 90s, it was an immensely special place.
I used to work and fist there up til 2011, it was ok then, but had lost of lot of what made it really special. To see what is is now, compared to 2011 is bad enough, but compared to the 90s, it’s utterly tragic.

A regular in Wan Chai, evidently

Wan Chai is all the vanilla stuff, the fisting is mainly in Kok. (Funny what get censored and doesn’t)

Wan chai now is actually a bit gentrified, certainly compared to the 90s or earlier.

As for all the democratic changes, unfortunately this was always inevitable with China and the whole one country two systems situation. China is never going to give up Hong Kong or let it become fully democratic.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 4th June 07:07

[turbobloke]

Randy Winkman said:

Jinx said:

Andeh1 said:

And people worry climate change is the biggest threat we face.

We've always been at war with global warming climate change. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree.

Exactly. If people don't agree that climate change is an issue that's fine with me. I'm not sure it's 100% clear-cut. But surely they accept that if that's the consensus it's much more important than political issues in one small part of the world?

Surely not. Look at where it sits in surveys of political priorities. Low down or last, if the sample is random enough and wide enough. There's a difference by age, corresponding to younger respondents still receiving - or recently exposed to - indoctrination in education. There may be a similar effect for middle class hippies.

There's an international UN poll at the link below with a sample of over 1.5 million, there hasn't been a more representative survey since.

https://i.insider.com/53444b0969beddb40fd99210?wid...

Political issues in small parts of the world - define small. With major powers interested in minor nations for their own geopolitical reasons, size doesn't matter.

[anonymous-user]

Some more positive HK news with cool new developments on the old Kai Tak runway.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/articl...

Many a hairy landing there over the years, heading low through the buildings on Kowloon then a sharp bank before the checkerboard to line up with the runway with little room for error.

Then the relief of having made it was replaced by the distinctive smell of the nullah which greeted you as you exit the runway and taxi in to the apron.

My school playing fields were here with the checkerboard in the background.



We’d get some great views as the 747s came in low over head, banking just before touchdown.





Pilots view here

https://youtu.be/lx3Ccs5tKfw

But you’d see some shocking landings, especially from the Chinese and Korean airlines less likely to do a go around when conditions got too sporty.

https://youtu.be/OtnL4KYVtDE

Didn’t always work out either.

[Jinx]

El stovey said:

Some great pics...

Hmm looks like my Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 landings

[Taita]

El stovey said:

Some more positive HK news with cool new developments on the old Kai Tak runway.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/society/articl...

Many a hairy landing there over the years, heading low through the buildings on Kowloon then a sharp bank before the checkerboard to line up with the runway with little room for error.

Then the relief of having made it was replaced by the distinctive smell of the nullah which greeted you as you exit the runway and taxi in to the apron.

My school playing fields were here with the checkerboard in the background.



We’d get some great views as the 747s came in low over head, banking just before touchdown.





Pilots view here

https://youtu.be/lx3Ccs5tKfw

But you’d see some shocking landings, especially from the Chinese and Korean airlines less likely to do a go around when conditions got too sporty.

https://youtu.be/OtnL4KYVtDE

Didn’t always work out either.

Bloody hell - proper flying at least!