United Airways to purchase 15 supersonic airliners

[FourWheelDrift]

https://twitter.com/united/status/1400407090192125...

Boomaero's supersonic airliner, designed with tracing paper.

[indigochim]

FourWheelDrift said:

...designed with tracing paper.

lol I don't know what you mean. It does look familiar although looking at some of the posts it's smaller and slower.

[MiniMan64]

Chances of this actually happening?

[FourWheelDrift]

indigochim said:

lol I don't know what you mean. It does look familiar although looking at some of the posts it's smaller and slower.

Yeah, they just got their mm and inches mixed up.

[Simpo Two]

Just this teensy hurdle to overcome: 'Boom needs to address the noise of the high jet speed engine and the tripled fuel consumption per unit distance and per seat of a modern wide-body aircraft.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Overture

And all be carbon neutral. Lol.

I suppose it makes the Airlander look relatively practical though!

[nikaiyo2]

Lol

Believe it when it takes off.

It’s about as likely as my startup, we have a mock-up done for a new Corillean ship that will make .5 past light speed.

[FourWheelDrift]

nikaiyo2 said:

Lol

Believe it when it takes off.

It’s about as likely as my startup, we have a mock-up done for a new Corillean ship that will make .5 past light speed.

I'll order 20 today if you can prove it can do the Kessel run is less than 12 parsecs.

[nikaiyo2]

FourWheelDrift said:

I'll order 20 today if you can prove it can do the Kessel run is less than 12 parsecs.

My simulations suggest that it can. I just need to iron out it being sucked in by small moons.

Edited by nikaiyo2 on Friday 4th June 15:30

[Muzzer79]

>sigh<

Another day, another "Concorde replacement"

I'll believe it when I see one flying.

[louiebaby]

Things that have made the business case more difficult for this kind of aircraft since development properly started in 2016:

1. Google Meet, MS Teams, Zoom
2. The global acceptance of the above by business

Edited by louiebaby on Friday 4th June 14:21

[Dr Jekyll]

Simpo Two said:

Just this teensy hurdle to overcome: 'Boom needs to address the noise of the high jet speed engine and the tripled fuel consumption per unit distance and per seat of a modern wide-body aircraft.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Overture

And all be carbon neutral. Lol.

I suppose it makes the Airlander look relatively practical though!

An environmentalist lobby group says tripled fuel consumption, Boom reckons fuel consumption per seat 'comparable to subsonic business class'. Since they don't have any engines yet nobody knows.

[Trevatanus]

MiniMan64 said:

Chances of this actually happening?

About the same as Virgin's A380 orders being delivered.

[Simpo Two]

Dr Jekyll said:

An environmentalist lobby group says tripled fuel consumption, Boom reckons fuel consumption per seat 'comparable to subsonic business class'. Since they don't have any engines yet nobody knows.

Fair point, you don't know who's contributing to Wikpedia. It can't be easy working out the fuel consumption of a yet-to-be-built supersonic aircraft when all you have is lumps of tofu.

But at the end of the day there are still those pesky laws of physics to deal with.

[Mr E]

MiniMan64 said:

Chances of this actually happening?

Two hopes, and one of them is Bob?

[Eric Mc]

Who are Boom?
What track record have they got in the world of aerospace design?

[Simpo Two]

Eric Mc said:

Who are Boom?
What track record have they got in the world of aerospace design?

A very valid point.

Management team at https://boomsupersonic.com/company That lot must cost a bit. (click on the little + signs in each photo to see more)

Plus previous link to assist Eric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Technology


Personally I'll file it under Emperor's New Clothes and anything else is a bonus.

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 4th June 15:17

[Dr Jekyll]

Simpo Two said:

Fair point, you don't know who's contributing to Wikpedia. It can't be easy working out the fuel consumption of a yet-to-be-built supersonic aircraft when all you have is lumps of tofu.

But at the end of the day there are still those pesky laws of physics to deal with.

And the laws of physics aren't even the biggest issue.

On a route where travelling supersonically is the only way to get there and back in a day there will be people prepared to pay the extra, and once you are looking at business class tickets and above fuel cost isn't all that big a chunk, even trebling the fuel bill wouldn't double the cost per seat mile.
The big problem is how many such routes are there if you can't go supersonic over populated land? So can you sell enough SSTs to make a profit?

Concorde operating costs were horrendous compared with subsonics but BA generally managed to sell enough tickets to more than cover them. It was the small size of the fleet that made it an economic failure for the manufacturers and eventually made it uneconomic to operate.

[Eric Mc]

Simpo Two said:

A very valid point.

Management team at https://boomsupersonic.com/company That lot must cost a bit. (click on the little + signs in each photo to see more)

Plus previous link to assist Eric: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Technology


Personally I'll file it under Emperor's New Clothes and anything else is a bonus.

Edited by Simpo Two on Friday 4th June 15:17

Most of the article talks about raising funds - with nothing about experience in aeronautical design.

[Simpo Two]

Eric Mc said:

Most of the article talks about raising funds - with nothing about experience in aeronautical design.

Look at the individuals' credentials on the website link (1/3 of the way down).

[h0b0]

I attended a presentation from Boom where it was clear their business was pretending to build planes and not building them.