Broadband routers - current top tip?
Broadband routers - current top tip?
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CAPP0

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20,881 posts

233 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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What's the current Best Buy for a replacement broadband router? Mine's dead, and I think it would be quicker to fly to China and collect one than wait for Plusnet to agree with me and send a new one out. 2.4 & 5GHz wireless would be nice but not absolutely essential, just a decent compromise of performance and price (and supplier perhaps?).

TIA

anonymoususer

8,514 posts

78 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Fritzbox 7530
I have been amazed at how well it performs

walamai

459 posts

237 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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This is somewhat of a 'how long is a piece of string' question.

I'm assuming your PlusNet comes into the house on a telephone cable (ie DSL with an RJ11 plug) and you just want a drop in replacement for the PlusNet router?

In which case you want a router which supports DSL. I'm a bit of a fan of TP-Link stuff. Sensible price point, fairly easy for a novice to get set up, but also configurable enough if a techie wants to get in into tinkering.

In your position, I'd have this on a next day delivery https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Archer-VR400-V3-C...

eccles

14,394 posts

252 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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anonymoususer said:
Fritzbox 7530
I have been amazed at how well it performs
I've got one of these. Came with my Zen package. Great wifi range and I've never had it drop out in the last 3 years.

sagarich

1,299 posts

179 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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anonymoususer said:
Fritzbox 7530
I have been amazed at how well it performs
Another vote for this, I have one via zen and it’s brilliant!

Digger

16,942 posts

221 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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sagarich said:
anonymoususer said:
Fritzbox 7530
I have been amazed at how well it performs
Another vote for this, I have one via zen and it’s brilliant!
Me too . . . also doubles up as a storage heater smile

Bollah

567 posts

217 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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On plsunet and use a https://www.asus.com/Networking-IoT-Servers/Modem-... which is combined modem and router, so only the one box needed.

I also run WRT on it for additional features.

sjg

7,681 posts

295 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Assuming VDSL, one of the Openreach modems into a UniFi USG and WiFi setup.

I’ve heard good things about the Fritzbox as an all in one though.

anonymoususer

8,514 posts

78 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Digger said:
sagarich said:
anonymoususer said:
Fritzbox 7530
I have been amazed at how well it performs
Another vote for this, I have one via zen and it’s brilliant!
Me too . . . also doubles up as a storage heater smile
Mine never gets hot or anything like that

redrabbit

2,192 posts

195 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Digger said:
Me too . . . also doubles up as a storage heater smile
What they said. Great bit of kit

curlyks2

1,076 posts

176 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Draytek. Haven't been able to fault them for performance or longevity.

walamai

459 posts

237 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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sjg said:
Assuming VDSL, one of the Openreach modems into a UniFi USG and WiFi setup.

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I don't think this helps the OP. I think their 'modem' (plusnet router) is dead. So they need something to plug their DSL line in to.

OP - the Frtiz Box (and Draytek) suggested by others is a good suggestion, but spec wise it's about the same as the TP Link VR400. It's perhaps a bit more 'robust' and configurable, but the main features like DSL support, WiFi standard, support for 4G etc are pretty much the same. It seems you can run DECT cordless phones off it, so that's a difference, but I'm assuming that feature isn't useful to you.

It is however about twice the price of the TP-Link, and you can't get it delivered tomorrow - which would be my main priority if I was at home with a dead Internet router!

CAPP0

Original Poster:

20,881 posts

233 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Thanks everyone for the responses. I've borrowed a router from a neighbour and reconfigured it to my connection and I'm back on line with that at present. All points above noted. It's a FTTC circuit, so it just comes in on copper like normal ADSL.

Point noted about the various costs. I think the main thing which might sway me one way or another is wireless strength. Whilst I realise I could start looking at mesh options, do any of the suggestions above have a significantly better/stronger wireless signal? My house is a fairly standard-sized 4 bed detached, with a reasonable but not massive garden, but the signal in the back garden (the incoming line and router are upstairs at the front) isn't great.

Funk

27,728 posts

239 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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walamai said:
This is somewhat of a 'how long is a piece of string' question.

I'm assuming your PlusNet comes into the house on a telephone cable (ie DSL with an RJ11 plug) and you just want a drop in replacement for the PlusNet router?

In which case you want a router which supports DSL. I'm a bit of a fan of TP-Link stuff. Sensible price point, fairly easy for a novice to get set up, but also configurable enough if a techie wants to get in into tinkering.

In your position, I'd have this on a next day delivery https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Archer-VR400-V3-C...
I'm on PlusNet and use a TP-Link VR2800 which I'll be honest, I'm very underwhelmed with for the money. The reviews were good but by the time I got round to setting it up, I'd missed the returns window - which I would've used if possible.

sjg

7,681 posts

295 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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walamai said:
sjg said:
Assuming VDSL, one of the Openreach modems into a UniFi USG and WiFi setup.

[...]
I don't think this helps the OP. I think their 'modem' (plusnet router) is dead. So they need something to plug their DSL line in to.
The Openreach modem is what you plug your line into. Then you connect any decent ethernet router you like, set up the connection as PPPoE with your ISP username/password and off you go.

https://edspencer.me.uk/posts/2015-01-18-using-you...

The routing bit, and the wifi bit of most consumer routers are terrible, but by reducing the VDSL part to a dumb modem like the Openreach one you can run what you like beyond it.

Big Rig

8,998 posts

217 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Anything Draytech. Nothing else comes close for quality and performance.

Digger

16,942 posts

221 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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Big Rig said:
Anything Draytech. Nothing else comes close for quality and performance.
Re Draytek . . . & so they should at those prices! smile

walamai

459 posts

237 months

Friday 11th June 2021
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sjg said:
The Openreach modem is what you plug your line into. Then you connect any decent ethernet router you like, set up the connection as PPPoE with your ISP username/password and off you go.

https://edspencer.me.uk/posts/2015-01-18-using-you...

The routing bit, and the wifi bit of most consumer routers are terrible, but by reducing the VDSL part to a dumb modem like the Openreach one you can run what you like beyond it.
That article says:

"BT used to supply Infinity customers with two pieces of equipment.

- A BT Home Hub (router)
- A VDSL (Very-high-bit-rate digital subscriber line) Modem
However, as the technology has improved, BT now supply Infinity customers with a single combined BT Home Hub (5 onwards), which contains both a router and a modem."

PlusNet are the same. OP doesn't have a separate modem as you may have. They have a single router/modem - which is dead!

These instructions explain how to use your own modem (router) with PlusNet. PlusNet aren't supplying a separate modem.
https://www.plus.net/help/broadband/broadband-conn...

OP - TP-Link call their mesh 'OneMesh', so you can choose from a range of WiFi extenders which would work with the router I suggested.

However, I think you're probably after something different to what I originally assumed. If you've already got a stop-gap solution then I'd be tempted to spend money on some decent WiFi gear instead, rather than a 'drop in' replacement for the PlusNet Router/Wifi box.

Check out the big thread on Weapons-grade home WiFi suggestions

When the new PlusNet router shows up you can switch off the WiFi in that (and just use it as a modem, like sjg is suggesting!) and connect the decent WiFi gear to that.

It's nice to keep the ISP modem, as support will be much easier if you have problems (and the DSL modem in any after market router/modems won't really be any better). But you will then also have decent WiFi. Best of both worlds.




sjg

7,681 posts

295 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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You can buy one for very little second hand.

Switching off WiFi on your router is not the same thing.

page3

5,198 posts

281 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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I prefer to keep modem, router and WiFi separate as I’ve yet to find a device that does all three well.

Currently running-
HP Microserver repurposed to run Opnsense.
Huawei 535 4G modem.
UniFi WiFi access points.

Fastest, most stable connection I’ve had.