Is there an EV Unicorn around the corner?

Is there an EV Unicorn around the corner?

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GuinnessMK

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1,608 posts

222 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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We're just approaching 3 and 1/2 years in a 22kW battery leased Renault Zoe EV and are beginning to think about making a change.

Obviously things have moved on significantly in the last 3 years, and CV-19 has impacted on both our commuting and holiday patterns.

WFH looks to be an option long term for me, so no more season ticket on the train, however I do need to visit the office once or twice a week. The other half can walk / cycle to work when not WFH.

So other than the weekly shop, a new EV is a bit of a luxury item for us, rather than a necessity, predominantly used to take us to our hobbies in the countryside or on holidays.

We're not up against the clock so can make the change at any point really, and the pace of new EV cars coming out is amazing compared to the last time we went car shopping.

Ideally want circa 200 mile range, 4 seats, and budget circa £30k. Have tested a Hyundai Kona, Pug 208 and 2008 (assuming the Vauxhall and Citroen versions are largely the same) and an MG ZS. Looking forward to the launch of the Skoda Enyaq but that is pushing the envelope.

Although the charging infrastructure situation has moved on significantly in the last 3 years and new cars keep being launched with ever more power / range, they also seem to increasing in cost quite significantly.

So, is there an ideal car just around the corner, at the right price, or are we better fishing in the pond now?



dmsims

6,527 posts

267 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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The Pug and the MG won't do 200 miles

ID3 ?

Stephen-733s2

103 posts

37 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Out of interest, if you’re not going to be putting many miles on it, why go new? Could you not get much more for your money second hand (or same car at a lower price) and with your mileage even a slightly higher mileage 2-3 year old car would come down to average in a couple of years.

TooLateForAName

4,750 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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MG5? supposed to be an update- not sure if just a facelift or more) this year - although the current model is new to the uk, its been around in china for quite a while.

200 mile range, normal type estate car around £20k.

The new hyundai ev6? is expected to be good but no idea on cost.

the seat/cupra born looks good (their take on the id3)

kambites

67,576 posts

221 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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GuinnessMK said:
Ideally want circa 200 mile range, 4 seats, and budget circa £30k.
The MG5 and VW ID3 both seem to meet the requirements at the moment, as does the 62kwh Leaf.

Tesla are meant to be releasing a small car at some point, but probably not particularly soon.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 15th June 19:08

paradigital

865 posts

152 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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The Cupra Born offers an alternative to the ID3 that looks a little less “EV” and likely more kit than the VW for the same price point.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I'd buy a fun small EV for daily stuff, and just take the train twice a week to the office!

An i3 is actually fun to drive, a leaf, er, is not....... ;-)

page3

4,921 posts

251 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I think the market has hardly progressed at all in the last 3 years if you want a normal family hatchback EV. So much talk, so little actual product.

Plenty of super expensive stuff. Plenty of SUVs. Little else.

Choices-
Leaf (getting pretty old, had one)
Ioniq (currently own. It’s great. Getting on a bit)
Id3 (pricey, pretty cheap interior, seemed ok but didn’t wow)
Tesla 3 (pricey, not a hatchback, but including it here).

That’s pretty much it.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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What about a used Tesla

Cheapest appear to be £25k for 312miles and 0-62mph in 5 seconds. 362bhp.

That’s if you even need to spend that much.

SWoll

18,397 posts

258 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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VW ID.3 58kWh Pro Performance. £27k.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new...



Edited by SWoll on Tuesday 15th June 22:38

AshD

218 posts

249 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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ID3 or Kia e-Niro.

We have the Kia (along with a Model 3 P) and genuinely impressed by it. 64kw battery and regularly get 300 mile range out of it on a long trip in summer.

ZesPak

24,430 posts

196 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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page3 said:
I think the market has hardly progressed at all in the last 3 years if you want a normal family hatchback EV. So much talk, so little actual product.

Plenty of super expensive stuff. Plenty of SUVs. Little else.

Choices-
Leaf (getting pretty old, had one)
Ioniq (currently own. It’s great. Getting on a bit)
Id3 (pricey, pretty cheap interior, seemed ok but didn’t wow)
Tesla 3 (pricey, not a hatchback, but including it here).

That’s pretty much it.
Renault Zoe, apparently on the right tyres and at 30km/h it does over 450 miles hehe

http://techzle.com/renault-zoe-covers-more-than-76...

ChocolateFrog

25,373 posts

173 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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There's some very good lease deals on ID3's at the moment.

I'm not an EV evangelist, both my cars have V8's, nor do I worship at the feet of credit but the deals about at the moment were too good to pass up.

annodomini2

6,862 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Welshbeef said:
What about a used Tesla

Cheapest appear to be £25k for 312miles and 0-62mph in 5 seconds. 362bhp.

That’s if you even need to spend that much.
That would be the LR rwd which wasn't sold in the UK

Also be curious where you're finding one that cheap

SWoll

18,397 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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annodomini2 said:
Welshbeef said:
What about a used Tesla

Cheapest appear to be £25k for 312miles and 0-62mph in 5 seconds. 362bhp.

That’s if you even need to spend that much.
That would be the LR rwd which wasn't sold in the UK

Also be curious where you're finding one that cheap
Model S 85D I'd assume?


annodomini2

6,862 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Of course me getting models confused

RobbyJ

1,570 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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SWoll said:
Model S 85D I'd assume?

They're not D's, they are RWD cars I think. Also even the world hypermiling champ won't get 312 miles out of one, realistically 200 if you're driving carefully and factoring in a bit of battery degradation. Still I think they are great value if you're doing a lot of miles.

A500leroy

5,129 posts

118 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Your going to drop 30k on a car you dont even really need?
Why wouldnt a 5k Nissan leaf do the same job?

annodomini2

6,862 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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A500leroy said:
Your going to drop 30k on a car you dont even really need?
Why wouldnt a 5k Nissan leaf do the same job?
A £5k Nissan leaf, especially a Nissan leaf, will need a new battery.

A500leroy

5,129 posts

118 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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annodomini2 said:
A500leroy said:
Your going to drop 30k on a car you dont even really need?
Why wouldnt a 5k Nissan leaf do the same job?
A £5k Nissan leaf, especially a Nissan leaf, will need a new battery.
Thats why the one sat on my mates drive is used to take his kids to school and misses to work every day then?