PC guilty of manslaughter
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bitchstewie

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64,412 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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First time an officer has been found guilty of manslaughter since the 1980's apparently.

Dalian Atkinson: PC guilty of former footballer's manslaughter

milkround

1,331 posts

103 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Kicked the bloke so hard in the head that is left a boot mark. Then lied through his teeth about it. Should have been murder.

If I was to kick a policeman in the head like that I’d expect to be convicted of murder. You should know that if you kick someone in the head serious damage will occur. In fact if the victim were a pc and the kicker a black man in Tottenham there would be outrage...

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Yep, total scumbag. Obviously showing off/acting the hard man in front of the other PC he was shagging. Moron.

coppernorks

1,919 posts

70 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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AJL308 said:
Yep, total scumbag. Obviously showing off/acting the hard man in front of the other PC he was shagging. Moron.
what has his shagging habits to do with the case ?

what an idiotic comment

dieselgrunt

738 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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In for a fun time in prison.

Ian Geary

5,386 posts

216 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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coppernorks said:
AJL308 said:
Yep, total scumbag. Obviously showing off/acting the hard man in front of the other PC he was shagging. Moron.
what has his shagging habits to do with the case ?

what an idiotic comment
Although he testified his relationship had no bearing on his behaviour, the pc also testified to quite a few lies as well.

Reasonable to assume his "lover" being present influenced his judgement.

What else explains it then? Just a power crazed bully incapable of making sensible judgements? Better?

AJL308

6,390 posts

180 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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coppernorks said:
AJL308 said:
Yep, total scumbag. Obviously showing off/acting the hard man in front of the other PC he was shagging. Moron.
what has his shagging habits to do with the case ?

what an idiotic comment
Like I say, it's been suggested (here on another thread, I think) that he was acting like he did in order to appear hard in from of the other copper he was shagging. It would hardly be the first time a bloke went to far in showing off in front of a woman.

Mojooo

13,287 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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I believe he genuinely feared for his safety before the guy went down but I also think he went overboard in use of force

Maybe the adrenaline got too much?

mick987

1,778 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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What sort of sentence will he get?

efcgriswold

304 posts

63 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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Not sure if he can appeal. He will be at the mercy of the judge for sentence. Is it up to 10 years?

CoolHands

22,352 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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2 years suspended!

Is my guess

efcgriswold

304 posts

63 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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CoolHands said:
2 years suspended!

Is my guess
Anyone betting on how many eggs he can eat?

un1corn

2,143 posts

161 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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milkround said:
Kicked the bloke so hard in the head that is left a boot mark. Then lied through his teeth about it. Should have been murder.

If I was to kick a policeman in the head like that I’d expect to be convicted of murder. You should know that if you kick someone in the head serious damage will occur. In fact if the victim were a pc and the kicker a black man in Tottenham there would be outrage...
LMAO this is why the jury system is flawed, because cretins like you have a say.

If I boot you in the face, then you die later as a result of nothing to do with being kicked in the head, then I'm a murderer? Comical.

mick987

1,778 posts

134 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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CoolHands said:
2 years suspended!

Is my guess
That scumbag who killed the policeman with the car got 16 years, this copper should get something similar

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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un1corn said:
LMAO this is why the jury system is flawed, because cretins like you have a say.

If I boot you in the face, then you die later as a result of nothing to do with being kicked in the head, then I'm a murderer? Comical.
Why do you say ‘nothing to do with?’

TwigtheWonderkid

48,027 posts

174 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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coppernorks said:
what has his shagging habits to do with the case ?

what an idiotic comment
Errr, well it was part of the prosecution case, and they got a conviction. I suspect it was a major factor. Don't understand why you don't even think it's a possibility.

un1corn

2,143 posts

161 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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ThatGuyWhoDoesStuff said:
Why do you say ‘nothing to do with?’
Was the boot to his head the cause of death?

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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un1corn said:
Was the boot to his head the cause of death?
It was very likely a contributing factor, yes.

Why would you think it’s not?

Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

68 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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un1corn said:
Was the boot to his head the cause of death?
He died shortly after being kicked in the head & tasered for an excessive length of time. He'd never died before so I doubt the two events are pure coincidence.

I fail to see why anyone who's just been tasered needs kicking in the head, btw.

carinaman

24,478 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2021
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/05/dalian...

It reminds me of the officers and medic involved in the death of Thomas Orchard omitting the fact that they placed that emergency restraint belt around in his face in their notes made at the time.

It's like Superintendent Robyn Williams lying about what she did when she got that Whatsapp message with child sex abuse video.


I've little sympathy for Cops who can't get their story straight. Or lie.

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 23 June 22:59