Anticipatory arrests. WTF?
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Dr Jekyll

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Sunday 27th June 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57623...

Article said:
The Metropolitan Police arrested 12 people in raids in three areas of the capital on Friday and confiscated items linked to the protests.

The arrests were "proactive action" to reduce the likelihood of criminal activity, the force added.
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.


Gary C

14,746 posts

203 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57623...

Article said:
The Metropolitan Police arrested 12 people in raids in three areas of the capital on Friday and confiscated items linked to the protests.

The arrests were "proactive action" to reduce the likelihood of criminal activity, the force added.
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
I'm sure one of them was Tom Cruise.

JagLover

46,167 posts

259 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Gary C said:
I'm sure one of them was Tom Cruise.
Maybe the 12 should demand to see their minority report smile

irc

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160 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Lost ranger

312 posts

89 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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irc said:
Attempting to conspire to incite a conspiracy?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

194 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
Best leave those suspected terrorists alone then.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Sounds like some of them are anti-lockdown and some of them might be XR.

That's got to be confusing hehe

nordboy

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74 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
Have a look what the definition of an ‘attempt’ is in law. May explain a bit to you?

Of course you can arrest to prevent a crime??

peterperkins

3,328 posts

266 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Simply put they will have tangible evidence of them conspiring to commit offences.

It's a good idea to prevent people committing serious offences if you have reasonable evidence they are going to do so.

That evidence might be from all sorts of sources including informers, cctv, surveillance, intercepted messages, infiltration of the group etc.

Luckily we don't have to wait until someone actually murders someone or puts a brick through Mcdonalds window before taking action.

Andeh1

7,509 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I always love these news videos, the protestors are always the most eclectic assortment of oddballs, more akin to a slightly sinistor horror film.

How does protesting dressed as a homeless clown who got dragged through a rave backwards help you/your cause get taken seriously?

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

190 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Alucidnation said:
Best leave those suspected terrorists alone then.
This. Conspiracy to commit a crime is in itself a crime and has been for some time, this is nothing new.
Interestingly you cannot be guilty of conspiracy if you have been conspiring with your spouse.

anonymoususer

7,935 posts

72 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Good
The more these scum are taught to fear the repercussions of their actions the better.

BabySharkDooDooDooDooDooDoo

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193 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Andeh1 said:
I always love these news videos, the protestors are always the most eclectic assortment of oddballs, more akin to a slightly sinistor horror film.

How does protesting dressed as a homeless clown who got dragged through a rave backwards help you/your cause get taken seriously?
No you’ve got it wrong. That was Boris’ most recent press conference smile

AW111

9,674 posts

157 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Gary C said:
I'm sure one of them was Tom Cruise.
He can't handle the truth.

AW111

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157 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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nordboy said:
Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
Have a look what the definition of an ‘attempt’ is in law. May explain a bit to you?

Of course you can arrest to prevent a crime??
On what grounds can the police arrest someone who hasn't committed a crime?


Wills2

28,211 posts

199 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
On the contrary it's a very good look, it's called crime prevention and it's much better than turning up after the event.


MidlandsBoy

73 posts

58 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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AW111 said:
On what grounds can the police arrest someone who hasn't committed a crime?
I am sure they will find some 'grounds for arrest' once they have trawled through their internet activity..They are bound to have said something controvercial, or bought a copy of the wrong book at some point.

Bigends

6,031 posts

152 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Wills2 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
On the contrary it's a very good look, it's called crime prevention and it's much better than turning up after the event.

There must be an offence that theyre conspiring to commit. The Police havent disclosed what that offence is yet

Astacus

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258 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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AW111 said:
nordboy said:
Dr Jekyll said:
At the very least this is badly phrased. Did 'the force' not realise that the implication that they are arresting people because of what they might do really isn't a good look.
Have a look what the definition of an ‘attempt’ is in law. May explain a bit to you?

Of course you can arrest to prevent a crime??
On what grounds can the police arrest someone who hasn't committed a crime?
Bloody hell, at least read the thread, its only a few posts long!

Conspiracy to commit a crime is......a crime

sheesh

Dr Jekyll

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285 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Astacus said:
Bloody hell, at least read the thread, its only a few posts long!

Conspiracy to commit a crime is......a crime

sheesh
But these arrests are described as being 'to reduce the likelihood' of a crime. Implying no crime has yet been committed, that's the point.