Best defence by a defendants lawyer?
Best defence by a defendants lawyer?
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PugwasHDJ80

Original Poster:

7,654 posts

245 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/man-hounded-fr...

Horrible story about an innocent man being hounded out of his life by three vindictive women, who thankfully were all prosecuted.

however, a ray of sunshine from the defendants lawyer:

“The three of them need some intervention from probation regarding their thinking skills."

genius- m'lud they're just too stupid for words.....

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"

Om

2,147 posts

102 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Joey Deacon said:
"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit"
Indeed - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense

V8covin

9,396 posts

217 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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All 3 should have been given long custodial sentences.
Mud sticks,the bloke will forever be known as a pedophile and rapist.

Drawweight

3,498 posts

140 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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PugwasHDJ80 said:
https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/man-hounded-fr...

Horrible story about an innocent man being hounded out of his life by three vindictive women, who thankfully were all prosecuted.

however, a ray of sunshine from the defendants lawyer:

“The three of them need some intervention from probation regarding their thinking skills."

genius- m'lud they're just too stupid for words.....
I'm sure 500 quid compensation will make up for ruining his life rolleyes

CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

59 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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V8covin said:
All 3 should have been given long custodial sentences.
Mud sticks,the bloke will forever be known as a pedophile and rapist.
I agree, I read on the web site that compensation was in the *low hundreds*. It should be tens of thousands. Having to move isn't cheap and emotional stress doesn't help either , as you said a completely innocent man is now marked for life - a suspended 9 month sentence is not enough in my books.

And only a 2 year restraining order online! Why not be banned from using online services entirely for 2 years! That would teach them! Ban their facebook accounts and remove their internet connections.

Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

137 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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definitely longer sentencing and higher compensation needed.

Any future employers may well do social media checks or farm out referencing to a company that does those checks and he could easily be flagged up that way.

Also, more worringly, unless he can get the data removed from the police databases, it is quite likely that any DBS checks (or whatever they call them this month) will show up the arrest and NFA on the "intelligence" section. Then of course said employer will now have to do some safeguarding checks to see if they can consider him a risk under the context. Any sensible person would see what it is, but many employers will just see extra hassle and choose another candidate.

Not forgetting prejudice of course. People assume no smoke without fire when it comes to sexual offences.

theaxe

3,571 posts

246 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Could he pursue a civil claim for damages?

coppernorks

1,919 posts

70 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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{ Sir } Alex Ferguson's plea that he was speeding home rather than soil his pants was actually believed by the court.

A few sleepwalking attacks have been found not guilty due to . erm, sleepwalking [ as one does ].

https://abc11.com/joseph-mitchell-blake-attempted-...

jimmytheone

1,914 posts

242 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I dont know how true this story is but...
A friends father, whilst studying law at Cambridge, was stopped by the police and charged with being "drunk in charge of a bicycle" - he took it to court and argued that he was so drunk he was incapable of being in charge of anything.

I understand the judge was amused/impressed enough by this defence he got let off.

Simir

435 posts

78 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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This may be a myth as I was told the story a fair few years ago so feel free to shoot it down ....

There was a case against an insurance company whereby an individual was claiming they could no longer work following an accident that supposedly injured their arm. QC George Carman was representing the insurance company.

George Carman: "How high can you now lift your arm following the accident?"

Injured man: "This high." - man partially lifts arm

George Carman: "And how high could you lift your arm before the accident?"

Injured man "This high" man fully lifts injured arm

George Carman: "I have no further questions."

eharding

14,648 posts

308 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Not so much a defence as the best response by an expert witness to cross-examination.


Lawyer: "Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?"

Witness: "No."

Lawyer: "Did you check for blood pressure?"

Witness: "No."

Lawyer: "Did you check for breathing?"

Witness: "No."

Lawyer: "So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?"

Witness: "No."

Lawyer: "How can you be so sure, Doctor?"

Witness: "Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar."

Lawyer: "But could the patient have still been alive nevertheless?"

Witness: "Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere."


TriumphStag3.0V8

5,146 posts

105 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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theaxe said:
Could he pursue a civil claim for damages?
One would hope so, assuming the three had any assets. Judging by the fines etc handed out, I would expect not.

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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jimmytheone said:
I dont know how true this story is but...
A friends father, whilst studying law at Cambridge, was stopped by the police and charged with being "drunk in charge of a bicycle" - he took it to court and argued that he was so drunk he was incapable of being in charge of anything.

I understand the judge was amused/impressed enough by this defence he got let off.
It was Oxford!

hehe

voyds9

8,490 posts

307 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Now imagine if the sexes were reversed.

It would be in the national papers, probably on TV and calls for the perpetrators to be locked up and the keys thrown away.
They would removed from all social media and hounded out of their jobs.

Derek Smith

48,901 posts

272 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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jimmytheone said:
I dont know how true this story is but...
A friends father, whilst studying law at Cambridge, was stopped by the police and charged with being "drunk in charge of a bicycle" - he took it to court and argued that he was so drunk he was incapable of being in charge of anything.

I understand the judge was amused/impressed enough by this defence he got let off.
I had a car driving DD who failed to provide on the substantive machine at the nick. He was given three goes, and informed by the custody sergeant that he'd receive a ban if found guilty of refusing. He still didn't provide. I stated what I'd heard in the original hearing.

Found guilty and then appealed, the grounds were that he was too drunk to understand the implications of refusing to provide. I was outside the court, waiting, and the CPS brief came out and told me I could go as the case was, more or less, over.

Oxford and Cambridge agistrates are, I'm told by PCs, notoriously lenient when it came to such matters. No personal knowledge, just moans from those who policed the areas.