Duxford Summer Airshow
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dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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https://www.iwm.org.uk/airshows/duxford-summer-air...

Errrrr, no thanks.

I can only assume it’s not a complete list, but I fear the worst.

Simpo Two

91,364 posts

288 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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The worst would be a virtual airshow on Zoom...

zsdom

1,716 posts

143 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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For nearly £50?!

That’s the reason I’ve been to a Duxford show since 2015

Simpo Two

91,364 posts

288 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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zsdom said:
For nearly £50?!

That’s the reason I’ve been to a Duxford show since 2015
I'm sensing something is missing from that reply...

dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Flying Legends at Sywell was to have had about 48 participating aircraft - decent stuff as well. People were up in arms about paying £50 for a ticket.

I can’t believe anyone would pay that kind of money to go to this Duxford offering. Museum hangars all closed, and you’ve got to pick some daft ‘zone’ to stay in. I’ve always liked Duxford, and supported them, but this is getting silly. If they can’t get the participants, just don’t bother.



zsdom

1,716 posts

143 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Simpo Two said:
zsdom said:
For nearly £50?!

That’s the reason I’ve been to a Duxford show since 2015
I'm sensing something is missing from that reply...
Nothing sinister, there’s just zero chances I’m paying RIAT prices for what is essentially an inland seaside show

dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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zsdom said:
Simpo Two said:
zsdom said:
For nearly £50?!

That’s the reason I’ve been to a Duxford show since 2015
I'm sensing something is missing from that reply...
Nothing sinister, there’s just zero chances I’m paying RIAT prices for what is essentially an inland seaside show
He didn’t mean it was sinister, just that it made no sense.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Duxford has been yawn-inducing for many years now. Too much politics internally, and crippled by ever stricter rules. I’d rather watch YouTube videos, thanks.

pidsy

8,601 posts

180 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Got the email about tickets earlier today and I thought the same about the offering. More concerned about the fact you’d have dedicated parking and access to toilets than having a decent display.

Used to enjoy going to Wings and Wheels when that was on.

What’s worth going to this year?

dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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pidsy said:
Got the email about tickets earlier today and I thought the same about the offering. More concerned about the fact you’d have dedicated parking and access to toilets than having a decent display.

Used to enjoy going to Wings and Wheels when that was on.

What’s worth going to this year?
Not looked further, but perhaps Shuttleworth?

aeropilot

39,734 posts

250 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Tony1963 said:
Duxford has been yawn-inducing for many years now. Too much politics internally
Yep, Duxford has been ruined by the IWM's recruitment policy of employing people with no interest in the subject of why the place exists, and what it exists for.

For some years now, it was only Legends that caused me to go to the place, and with IWM putting a stop to that now, there's now no reason to go again.

I wonder for how much longer the likes of TFC and ARCo etc will stay based there?

Riley Blue

22,936 posts

249 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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dr_gn said:
pidsy said:
Got the email about tickets earlier today and I thought the same about the offering. More concerned about the fact you’d have dedicated parking and access to toilets than having a decent display.

Used to enjoy going to Wings and Wheels when that was on.

What’s worth going to this year?
Not looked further, but perhaps Shuttleworth?
That would be my suggestion. We try and get to at least two of their shows every year, well worth it.

Zippee

13,940 posts

257 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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11 displays? And one of those the parachutes? Jeez!
Bev a few years since I've been to Duxford and now I know why.

JeremyH5

1,807 posts

158 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Riley Blue said:
dr_gn said:
pidsy said:
Got the email about tickets earlier today and I thought the same about the offering. More concerned about the fact you’d have dedicated parking and access to toilets than having a decent display.

Used to enjoy going to Wings and Wheels when that was on.

What’s worth going to this year?
Not looked further, but perhaps Shuttleworth?
That would be my suggestion. We try and get to at least two of their shows every year, well worth it.
We’re going to Old Warden tomorrow for the Military Airshow. Same deal as last year on the 5m x 5m car and chair spaces. Works well. Not so sure about the weather forecast!

tracer.smart

656 posts

234 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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Tony1963 said:
Duxford has been yawn-inducing for many years now. Too much politics internally, and crippled by ever stricter rules. I’d rather watch YouTube videos, thanks.
Have you been to the Imperial War Museum Kennington since the redesign? It received a proper dose of wokery into the mix, along with a liberal dose of the arts. I’ll never go again.

I fear with some of the trustees IWM have taken on, they are setting most IWM museums on a certain course. Having worked with one of them personally in the past, I can definitely see her ‘progressive’ influence creeping in.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd July 2021
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tracer.smart said:
Have you been to the Imperial War Museum Kennington since the redesign? It received a proper dose of wokery into the mix, along with a liberal dose of the arts. I’ll never go again.

I fear with some of the trustees IWM have taken on, they are setting most IWM museums on a certain course. Having worked with one of them personally in the past, I can definitely see her ‘progressive’ influence creeping in.
No. Was thinking about it when the virus struck, but might not bother now lol.

So many museums appear to drop to the level of the lowest common denominator, and it’s a shame. They’re just a polished showroom of artifacts and I find that yucky.

dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Tony1963 said:
tracer.smart said:
Have you been to the Imperial War Museum Kennington since the redesign? It received a proper dose of wokery into the mix, along with a liberal dose of the arts. I’ll never go again.

I fear with some of the trustees IWM have taken on, they are setting most IWM museums on a certain course. Having worked with one of them personally in the past, I can definitely see her ‘progressive’ influence creeping in.
No. Was thinking about it when the virus struck, but might not bother now lol.

So many museums appear to drop to the level of the lowest common denominator, and it’s a shame. They’re just a polished showroom of artifacts and I find that yucky.
I can deal with the artifacts - in fact things in glass cases is all part of a decent museum for me. A balance of restored and original stuff is what's needed. What I really hate are the naff, tacky (often literally) interactive "exhibits", that seem to serve no purpose but to give something kids to run around pressing random buttons (or at least for those "exhibits" that are not out of order).

Never been to Hendon, but for me, Duxford was a great experience, with the museum hangars, the 'live' restoration hangars, land warfare hall, and the smaller stuff like the radio hut run by very knowledgeable volunteers (now gone I think). Flying Legends had all this, plus the flying, the history of the place and all the side shows. Irrespective of who was to "blame" for not hosting it there, it was overall a terrible decision. No matter how good Sywell is supposed to be as a venue, it will never be as good as Duxford for that event IMO. Seems like this Summer thing is supposed to be an "event" rather than an airshow, which leaves very little for the enthusiast to look forward to.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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I work at Wattisham on the Apaches. I’m just looking forward to the next families day. A chilled event, I can usually get a family member or neighbour in, it’s free, and the last one even had free food!

All I tell myself these days is that at least I went to air shows when they scared the living poo out of spectators. Same with motorsport. I’m 57, and went to my first races and air shows around 1969. And ever since, I’ve been into aircraft and race/rally cars.

If I went to an air show now as a five year old I’d maybe take up cross-stitching.

dr_gn

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16,766 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Tony1963 said:
I work at Wattisham on the Apaches. I’m just looking forward to the next families day. A chilled event, I can usually get a family member or neighbour in, it’s free, and the last one even had free food!

All I tell myself these days is that at least I went to air shows when they scared the living poo out of spectators. Same with motorsport. I’m 57, and went to my first races and air shows around 1969. And ever since, I’ve been into aircraft and race/rally cars.

If I went to an air show now as a five year old I’d maybe take up cross-stitching.
My Dad took me to Finningley, Conningsby and Church Fenton airshows back when I was very young in the '70s. Also the BGP and 6 hour sports car races at Silverstone, which often had air displays. The air displays were often bordering of frightening, but you always wanted more. Likewise, the sound and sight of the cars was - and I use the word carefully these days - awesome. These days both of these things I used to love going to have been watered down to the extent of me being indifferent to them. I wouldn't cross the road to watch a current F1 car. No wonder my 13 y/o son isn't really interested in it.

I always thought that one interest that could never be taken away was the simple pleasure of flying a radio controlled slope soarer on a summer evening in the Peak District. Fast-forward 25 years, and the flying site has been made pretty much un-useable by an unfriendly farmer, and other demands from various parties. All this despite it being access land, and despite it being a silent form of flying, and not a single accident involving a person or property, that I know of anyway, since the club was formed in 1930.

These days I assume that increasing legislation, H&S restrictions and the seemingly apathetic attitude of the general population to anything that doesn't involve reality TV, celebrities or football will eventually reduce us all to having to accept one moronic common level. The one hope I have was that I'm effectively turning into my Dad - he always used to say that "in his day", the pits balcony at Silverstone where you could could see the cars and drivers with no crowds or crowding were the best days, and they wouldn't return. That all changed when we managed to get pits passes for F1 testing in the late '80s/early '90s, and then those became his best F1 days. So maybe there's a glimmer of hope that some things *sometimes* change for the better. Not holding my breath though.

Basically, yes, I'm a miserable old man who lives in the past, and I make no apologies for that.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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dr_gn said:
My Dad took me to Finningley, Conningsby and Church Fenton airshows back when I was very young in the '70s. Also the BGP and 6 hour sports car races at Silverstone, which often had air displays. The air displays were often bordering of frightening, but you always wanted more. Likewise, the sound and sight of the cars was - and I use the word carefully these days - awesome. These days both of these things I used to love going to have been watered down to the extent of me being indifferent to them. I wouldn't cross the road to watch a current F1 car. No wonder my 13 y/o son isn't really interested in it.

I always thought that one interest that could never be taken away was the simple pleasure of flying a radio controlled slope soarer on a summer evening in the Peak District. Fast-forward 25 years, and the flying site has been made pretty much un-useable by an unfriendly farmer, and other demands from various parties. All this despite it being access land, and despite it being a silent form of flying, and not a single accident involving a person or property, that I know of anyway, since the club was formed in 1930.

These days I assume that increasing legislation, H&S restrictions and the seemingly apathetic attitude of the general population to anything that doesn't involve reality TV, celebrities or football will eventually reduce us all to having to accept one moronic common level. The one hope I have was that I'm effectively turning into my Dad - he always used to say that "in his day", the pits balcony at Silverstone where you could could see the cars and drivers with no crowds or crowding were the best days, and they wouldn't return. That all changed when we managed to get pits passes for F1 testing in the late '80s/early '90s, and then those became his best F1 days. So maybe there's a glimmer of hope that some things *sometimes* change for the better. Not holding my breath though.

Basically, yes, I'm a miserable old man who lives in the past, and I make no apologies for that.
I completely agree with you.