Leyland Sherpa
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crankedup5

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10,917 posts

56 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Haven’t used my old caravan for a couple of years now (covid) and begining to think about the aggravation side of hitching up again. My house being situated on a steepish slope doesn’t help and not enough room for casual three point turns.
Thinking about trying out another camper van, used to own. Bedford CA dorma but the sleeping arrangement was abysmal. This time I am looking at a mid 1970s sherpa with the proper ‘auto sleeper’ conversion.
When I was much younger I seem to recall the sherpa was the runt of the pack regards quality, also they used to rot out before ones very eyes?
And yet the van I am considering is in super condition with a virtually advisory free and great MOT pass record. Mechanicals are said to be robust as engine and gearbox was used in a variety of Leyland products.
Am I completely bonkers?

DKL

4,827 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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My folks had a sherpa conversion when I were a lad. It took us around Iceland in the early 80s along with a metro which we inadvertently filled with a parafin mix, Oddly it didn't really run that well for a tank or so. Sorry grandad!
Anyway the sherpa was ok, galley kitchen at the back, 2 bench seats and a elevating roof that could sleep 4 at a push.
It did however rot badly along the sills as I recall and it was sold when this really wasn't fixable without major work.
I wonder if JLE 579N is still out there.

grumpy52

5,928 posts

187 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Slow , noisy , heavy steering and thirsty .
Like all campers if you find one that has had a meticulous owner it will have a big effect on its condition these days.

moffspeed

3,301 posts

228 months

Tuesday 29th June 2021
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Buy it , if only for the front indicator lenses.

They are of great value elsewhere….

//j17

4,873 posts

244 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Not the classicy answer but have you looked at getting one of the caravan motor movers fitted to your caravan? My mother who often takes her 'van out on her own and is somewhat past yanking on handles/the tow hitch to move it around has had one for years and is very happy with her's.

Hitching up at home is just a matter of driving the car out and parking it in the road, then flipping the motors down onto each 'van wheel and using the remote control to drive the 'van out to meet it, spinning it inside its own length if necessary. That gets it in position and it's just a matter of screwing the jockey wheel down till it clips on the hitch - and remembering to flip the motors back up off the 'van wheels before trying to drive off!

Edited by //j17 on Wednesday 30th June 09:37

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Thank you for all replies.
I’m used to slow, heavy, noisy and thirsty as I am a dyed in wool vintage car lover, Austin 16/6 carlton. so the Sherpa will feel positively light, nimble and full of beans in comparison.

The caravan motor mover idea is one that I thought about and would be the solution.Problem is I cannot fit one as my caravan is vintage and unsuited to fitting.I did try a mover fitted to the jockey wheel but that soon burnt out unfortunately.

I will take my enquiry a stage further and ask the seller for more details on his van. I will let you know how things turn out.

Edited by crankedup5 on Wednesday 30th June 10:59

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Darn it, still looking for a good classic camper van.
I asked about several questions about the van and some of the replies have put me off a viewing unfortunately.

Adrian E

3,333 posts

197 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Lucky escape! Drove these when they were new and they were bloody dreadful compared to pretty much anything else of the period, with appalling build quality and an amazing ability to fail in new and interesting ways. Only upside is a survivor now can’t be all that bad

An old Mercedes conversion is probably a much better bet - 709d makes a great base

Rozzers

2,923 posts

96 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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I’d say no, they were awkward to drive and noisier compared to the 80’s Transits, they all pulled to the left, brakes and rear doors were crap and they were never out the workshop for steering, suspension, brakes and starting issues.

They aren’t that big, but drove like a truck.

Perkier performance than a transit though.

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Blimey oh riley!! I had thought they had a reputation from the early days.Anyway looking for alternatives but must be 60’s/70’s.
Cheers guys.

anonymous-user

75 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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I’m surprised the real Sherpas never sued BL over naming such a lump of st after them!

PurpleTurtle

8,563 posts

165 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
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My dad was a press tool engineer for Freight Rover (morphing into Leyland Daf and LDV) for 25yrs. He was ‘the man’ for LDV body panels. It was a real vocation for him, a lifetime’s work.

He’s sadly suffering from the onset of dementia now, would probably fail to recognise a K2 or a 210, as they were know internally, if he saw one, but for a long time he lived and breathed the Sherpa! Great to hear that people are still keeping them going.

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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^^^^^^^^
Sorry to hear of your dads illness, it’s a horrible disease.
Seen a few ‘Sherpa’vans come to the market recently.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Breadvan, sometimes of this parish, had a Sherpa camper - unless it's been deleted I think there was a thread on it.

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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A long standing PHer, maybe I can dig out that thread, however a couple of issues turned me away
from the particular van I was interested in. Asked about the chassis condition and that was skipped set alarm bells off for me. And the seller has owned it for only a few months, added two and two on that.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Returning to your original post, my grandparents had a couple of Bedford CF campers back when they were new. From what little I remember of a handful of holidays in the mid-70s they were very good.

Mark A S

2,037 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Probably the worst van ever made in this country, awful things, noisy uncomfortable, the diesels were made from chocolate, utter crap.

I use to work in transport back in the day, hence my rather biased view smile

Bobo W

785 posts

273 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Mark A S said:
Probably the worst van ever made in this country, awful things, noisy uncomfortable, the diesels were made from chocolate, utter crap.
Apart from that OP not much to worry about.

Great thread by the way, the universal disdain is quite something

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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My main interest is steam traction/vintage cars. Spent weekends at shows rallies using my vintage caravan as an exhibit and accommodation for myself one or two nights. But as I mentioned it getting a bind now getting on the road with it.
This is why I am considering a classic camper to replace the caravan, ideally I would like pre war camper van but. are so rare and difficult to find.

crankedup5

Original Poster:

10,917 posts

56 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Mark A S said:
Probably the worst van ever made in this country, awful things, noisy uncomfortable, the diesels were made from chocolate, utter crap.

I use to work in transport back in the day, hence my rather biased view smile
yikes