used car woes
Author
Discussion

TheGrandBore

Original Poster:

13 posts

80 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
Hopefully this is the right place to ask this sort of thing?

My sister in law has purchased a 2002 Audi A2 from a local garage for £2000. It has full history and a new mot.

There was a small problem of slow wipers, apparently very slow and have now stopped working altogether.

She has been into Audi and the parts required (relay) should cost £90 but are no longer available and has been advised to find a crashed A2 at a breakers yard.

The garage have said that cars of that value dont have a warranty because of its low value, this doesnt seem fair to me.

NMNeil

5,860 posts

78 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
TheGrandBore said:
Hopefully this is the right place to ask this sort of thing?

My sister in law has purchased a 2002 Audi A2 from a local garage for £2000. It has full history and a new mot.

There was a small problem of slow wipers, apparently very slow and have now stopped working altogether.

She has been into Audi and the parts required (relay) should cost £90 but are no longer available and has been advised to find a crashed A2 at a breakers yard.

The garage have said that cars of that value dont have a warranty because of its low value, this doesnt seem fair to me.
If your sister in law gets no joy from the seller, I'd have her get a second opinion on the wipers. A relay is a switch and is either on or off. it won't cause the wipers to be slow. The A2 has a known problem of the wiper arm spindles seizing in the bushings.

davek_964

11,187 posts

203 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
NMNeil said:
If your sister in law gets no joy from the seller, I'd have her get a second opinion on the wipers. A relay is a switch and is either on or off. it won't cause the wipers to be slow. The A2 has a known problem of the wiper arm spindles seizing in the bushings.
A quick search also suggests that poor / bad earth is a common cause of this on A2s - try earthing between the wiper motor body and the chassis / engine.

(Depending on when she bought it, it doesn't matter if it cost 50p - CRA should apply. But I doubt it's worth the hassle)

TheGrandBore

Original Poster:

13 posts

80 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
davek_964 said:
But I doubt it's worth the hassle)
Thats what I was thinking, but suddenly I "win" the task of fixing it and have been googling the spindles and earthuing threads biggrin

Wagonwheel555

909 posts

84 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
Tried eBay for the part?

It’s a 19 year old car so I guess Audi probably don’t make some parts for it anymore.

Was it made clear no warranty was supplied with the car?

As mentioned, you have rights in terms of buying from a garage but it sounds like the garage will not be helpful and trying to get a refund for the car for the sake of wipers seems not worth it either

TheGrandBore

Original Poster:

13 posts

80 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
Audi sold them up until 2005 but still that is a while ago. Would be surprised if its not a common part in other Audis, VW, Skoda etc. ebay is a good shout thanks.

Nothing on the receipt to say no warranty, think she was a little naive to assume or maybe they are trying it on.

ZX10R NIN

30,467 posts

153 months

Wednesday 30th June 2021
quotequote all
If it was bought from a dealer then, you'll get 90 days of warranty so I'd be going back to the dealer.

LightningBlue

616 posts

69 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
quotequote all
Warranty is effectively pointless because the Consumer Rights Act applies. It’s not really any hassle to quote the CRA and request that the dealer fixes the car. Don’t have to threaten to reject it.

Sheepshanks

40,712 posts

147 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
quotequote all
ZX10R NIN said:
If it was bought from a dealer then, you'll get 90 days of warranty so I'd be going back to the dealer.
I'm doubting myself now, bearing in mind it's you, but the 90 day warranty thing is often dismissed as nonsense.

There's no requirement to give any warranty. CRA assumes fault pre-exisiting for 6 months unless the dealer can prove otherwise - and that's not as black and white as it sounds.

oilslick

969 posts

214 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
quotequote all
In scenarios like this I actually feel slightly bad for used car dealers - being expected to fix stuff on a 19 year old shed that's fast approaching the end of its useful life is nuts.

anonymous-user

82 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
quotequote all
oilslick said:
In scenarios like this I actually feel slightly bad for used car dealers - being expected to fix stuff on a 19 year old shed that's fast approaching the end of its useful life is nuts.
£2000 car has a fault and they shouldn’t have to help ?

TheGrandBore

Original Poster:

13 posts

80 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
quotequote all
oilslick said:
In scenarios like this I actually feel slightly bad for used car dealers - being expected to fix stuff on a 19 year old shed that's fast approaching the end of its useful life is nuts.
The thing is, the girl is buying this car because she doesn't have the cash to buy a new or better car and obviously cash less disposable income for faults than someone spending 10 times the amount.

Not sure if a slow wiper should have been picked up on the mot, hopefully nothing more serious was also missed.

Sheepshanks

40,712 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
quotequote all
oilslick said:
In scenarios like this I actually feel slightly bad for used car dealers - being expected to fix stuff on a 19 year old shed that's fast approaching the end of its useful life is nuts.
I don't know how dealers can sell stuff like this at all. I can only imagine they must have paid a few hundred for the car otherwise the slightest thing would wipe out any profit.

I guess the risk is that low end sales will be made by traders pretending to be private individuals.