Chicken and Egg Security Clearance
Chicken and Egg Security Clearance
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Greenmantle

Original Poster:

1,950 posts

130 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Currently my Security Clearance is lapsed. Most agents are getting the usual "must have CURRENT" instructions from their clients. So is this down to a timescale issue from Imphal Barracks or just a cost that the client doesn't want to spend?

Scrump

23,701 posts

180 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Time for new clearances or renewals is taking longer than it used to.
There is a cost involved which some employers may not want to incur but also not all employers are in the position to be able to act as a sponsor for a clearance application.

Freakuk

4,383 posts

173 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Can you renew your SC?

I've tried unsuccessfully for years to find a way to get SC without a client paying for it, and there is no way for me as an individual to pay for it myself.

Greenmantle

Original Poster:

1,950 posts

130 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Freakuk said:
Can you renew your SC?

I've tried unsuccessfully for years to find a way to get SC without a client paying for it, and there is no way for me as an individual to pay for it myself.
I would love to personally renew my SC status via my own company but my company has to be on the "X list" to be a sponsor and that looks like to be impossible since the company would need to be already in a situation where SC clearance is required. Hence the Chicken and Egg Title.

Also about 5 years ago I found out that the cost to the MOD to carry out a DV clearance was only about £1000 but knowing many companys small as well as the big ones they would be trying to even mitigate that cost.

geeks

11,022 posts

161 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Greenmantle said:
Freakuk said:
Can you renew your SC?

I've tried unsuccessfully for years to find a way to get SC without a client paying for it, and there is no way for me as an individual to pay for it myself.
I would love to personally renew my SC status via my own company but my company has to be on the "X list" to be a sponsor and that looks like to be impossible since the company would need to be already in a situation where SC clearance is required. Hence the Chicken and Egg Title.

Also about 5 years ago I found out that the cost to the MOD to carry out a DV clearance was only about £1000 but knowing many companys small as well as the big ones they would be trying to even mitigate that cost.
I am certain DV costs more than £1,000! SC clearance used to cost about that and it is a much lower level than DV. It did used to be quicker to get SC clearance if you had already had it within x number of years, not sure if that is the case still. It still needs to be sponsored though, no way around that really.

MadCaptainJack

1,702 posts

62 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Greenmantle said:
Also about 5 years ago I found out that the cost to the MOD to carry out a DV clearance was only about £1000 ...
That’s far too low. More like £9,000.

AIUI, security clearances aren’t tranferrable between companies but I guess that already having one signals to the prospective employer that they’re not wasting their time with a coke-snorting, hooker-mudering, gambling debt-laden pinko commie, and/or it’s easier/cheaper to get a “new” clearance for someone who already has one. The DVA really oughtta stamp that st out but this is the civil service we’re talking about, so we’re likely stuck with the closed shop until some government minister with a set of balls decides to do something about it... rolleyes

Scrump

23,701 posts

180 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Security clearances are transferable between companies.
Whichever organisation originally sponsored the application holds that clearance until it expires, is revoked or is transferred to another organisation able to hold it.

MadCaptainJack

1,702 posts

62 months

Thursday 1st July 2021
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Scrump said:
Security clearances are transferable between companies.
Whichever organisation originally sponsored the application holds that clearance until it expires, is revoked or is transferred to another organisation able to hold it.
Does this method of transfer require that that the first organisation voluntarily transfer the clearance to the other organisation?