Delivery driver, 63, receives 78 points on his licence...
Delivery driver, 63, receives 78 points on his licence...
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hyphen

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26,262 posts

114 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9748921/D...


extracts from papers said:
A delivery driver was handed 78 points on his driving licence after he was caught by the same set of speed cameras 26 times in the space of just three months.

Phillip Dodd was repeatedly flashed by the Gatso cameras as he drove his work van at speeds of between 56mph and 63mph along a 50mph stretch of the M62 near Warrington.

He was banned from driving for six months although it is thought the points will drop off his licence at the end of his disqualification.

'I was often the only vehicle driving home at 6am.....


He added: 'The van wasn't in my name and that's why I kept on getting tickets and not knowing I was getting them.

'Twelve weeks later, I got 26 letters through the post. When I realised, I contacted Swansea DVLA and told them the situation. I am not a dangerous driver. '

Dodd was also fined a total of £520 - £20 for each speeding offence and was ordered to pay £142 in costs and surcharges
Edited by hyphen on Friday 2nd July 13:25

garagewidow

1,502 posts

194 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I hope he doesn't drive to the job centre.

tangerine_sedge

6,222 posts

242 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Isn't there a maximum time they have to contact you before they are no longer valid? Ithought this was something like 2 weeks? Expecting an expert along in 3..2..1..

mac96

5,775 posts

167 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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I wonder why there was a 50mph speed limit ? Roadworks for 'several years'? And why he didn't he notice? Seems a bit odd to systematically ignore the limit in camera enforced areas if you drive for a living.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

268 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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tangerine_sedge said:
Isn't there a maximum time they have to contact you before they are no longer valid? Ithought this was something like 2 weeks? Expecting an expert along in 3..2..1..
They have 14 days to contact the registered keeper, since that was not the victim of this tale, it all gets a bit messier after that.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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As sympathetic as I try to be, he's an idiot, or thought he was getting away with it.

If he didn't notice the 50 signs what else would he not notice while driving?

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

197 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Sounds like he got off pretty lightly if he only has to pay £20 per offence.

Although 56mph is hardly the crime of the century, no doubt on a road that used to be NSL.

towser44

4,071 posts

139 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Sounds like he got off pretty lightly if he only has to pay £20 per offence.

Although 56mph is hardly the crime of the century, no doubt on a road that used to be NSL.
It's a motorway and it was/would be 70 before the roadworks, which have probably been there for years as there are loads on the M62 round Cheshire/Gtr Manchester.

He wouldn't have been the only vehicle around at that time either, unless it was a Sunday.

Getragdogleg

9,887 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Without seeing the bit of road i find it hard to pass judgement but i will say that many roads here in Cornwall have had the 60 limits reduced to 50 and 40 in many places. Totally daft, its now too slow and seems to be an attempt to frustrate you out of your car and onto a bus or train that doesn't run anywhere near where you are actually going anyway.


towser44

4,071 posts

139 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Getragdogleg said:
Without seeing the bit of road i find it hard to pass judgement but i will say that many roads here in Cornwall have had the 60 limits reduced to 50 and 40 in many places. Totally daft, its now too slow and seems to be an attempt to frustrate you out of your car and onto a bus or train that doesn't run anywhere near where you are actually going anyway.
It's a motorway (M62) and is 50mph for ongoing roadworks

Getragdogleg

9,887 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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towser44 said:
Getragdogleg said:
Without seeing the bit of road i find it hard to pass judgement but i will say that many roads here in Cornwall have had the 60 limits reduced to 50 and 40 in many places. Totally daft, its now too slow and seems to be an attempt to frustrate you out of your car and onto a bus or train that doesn't run anywhere near where you are actually going anyway.
It's a motorway (M62) and is 50mph for ongoing roadworks
Indeed, was it a single lane coned off and in contraflow with workers present or a bunch of cones at the side on the hard shoulder that have been parked there for months and maybe some work on a verge possibly happening but not at night ?

That's what I meant by looking at the road in question.

Was this an more of a "harmless infringement" or "blatant disregard" deal? I suspect since the speeds were actually low and around the 60mph limit for the van itself its the former.

AngryYorkshireman

138 posts

69 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Someone who is so inattentive that they've not noticed the speed limit, the signs or the flash when you go past the camera. Sounds like he's a great driver!

mac96

5,775 posts

167 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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AngryYorkshireman said:
Someone who is so inattentive that they've not noticed the speed limit, the signs or the flash when you go past the camera. Sounds like he's a great driver!
And he is given up professional driving to become a gas fitter......confused

JagLover

46,167 posts

259 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Getragdogleg said:
towser44 said:
Getragdogleg said:
Without seeing the bit of road i find it hard to pass judgement but i will say that many roads here in Cornwall have had the 60 limits reduced to 50 and 40 in many places. Totally daft, its now too slow and seems to be an attempt to frustrate you out of your car and onto a bus or train that doesn't run anywhere near where you are actually going anyway.
It's a motorway (M62) and is 50mph for ongoing roadworks
Indeed, was it a single lane coned off and in contraflow with workers present or a bunch of cones at the side on the hard shoulder that have been parked there for months and maybe some work on a verge possibly happening but not at night ?

That's what I meant by looking at the road in question.

Was this an more of a "harmless infringement" or "blatant disregard" deal? I suspect since the speeds were actually low and around the 60mph limit for the van itself its the former.
Yes many Motorways have long stretches of "roadworks" that don't actually involve any activity taking place. A normal three lane motorway with a 50 or 60 limit is common.

the tribester

2,842 posts

110 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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mac96 said:
AngryYorkshireman said:
Someone who is so inattentive that they've not noticed the speed limit, the signs or the flash when you go past the camera. Sounds like he's a great driver!
And he is given up professional driving to become a gas fitter......confused
With his eye for detail, what could go wrong?

Carl_Manchester

15,831 posts

286 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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the tribester said:
mac96 said:
AngryYorkshireman said:
Someone who is so inattentive that they've not noticed the speed limit, the signs or the flash when you go past the camera. Sounds like he's a great driver!
And he is given up professional driving to become a gas fitter......confused
With his eye for detail, what could go wrong?
If they are anything like the M1 road-works at Milton Keynes 5 years ago you probably won't see a flash.

I got done for 53mph, fine and 3 points biggrin

saaby93

32,038 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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towser44 said:
Getragdogleg said:
Without seeing the bit of road i find it hard to pass judgement but i will say that many roads here in Cornwall have had the 60 limits reduced to 50 and 40 in many places. Totally daft, its now too slow and seems to be an attempt to frustrate you out of your car and onto a bus or train that doesn't run anywhere near where you are actually going anyway.
It's a motorway (M62) and is 50mph for ongoing roadworks
Havent Highways England decided 60mph is safer?

Proably an empty road that time of morning.
The trouble with speed cameras is they dont stop you exceeding a limit they only issue you a warning through the post too late

mac96

5,775 posts

167 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Carl_Manchester said:
the tribester said:
mac96 said:
AngryYorkshireman said:
Someone who is so inattentive that they've not noticed the speed limit, the signs or the flash when you go past the camera. Sounds like he's a great driver!
And he is given up professional driving to become a gas fitter......confused
With his eye for detail, what could go wrong?
If they are anything like the M1 road-works at Milton Keynes 5 years ago you probably won't see a flash.

I got done for 53mph, fine and 3 points biggrin
He might not have seem any flashes but you might expect him to notice the speed limit, regardless of whether it was appropriate!

Gareth79

8,749 posts

270 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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He didn't receive the NIPs because the van wasn't registered to him. I assume he bought it and the previous RK hadn't returned the change of keeper form. It sounds like he moved house and then realised he had never received the new V5C, and sorted it out.

Interesting thing is wearing the sunflower lanyard in court...

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 2nd July 2021
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Gareth79 said:
He didn't receive the NIPs because the van wasn't registered to him. I assume he bought it and the previous RK hadn't returned the change of keeper form. It sounds like he moved house and then realised he had never received the new V5C, and sorted it out.

Interesting thing is wearing the sunflower lanyard in court...
Every time I have seen someone wearing one of those, I have identified them as being an absolute fking weirdo.

I saw two people in the supermarket wearing them last week, and they both looked like serious oddballs/Walts/misfits/creeps. One of them was wearing camouflage army pants and army boots, with a ‘Help for Heroes’ hoodie on. Absolute guaranteed Walt.

That aside, I always wonder why there are people who speed past everyone else in long stretches of average cameras on motorway. I always think they must know something that no one else does, but when I see cases like this, I realise they are probably just unobservant idiots. Either that or they are criminals and the car isn’t registered to anyone who I actually exits.