How many Vantage 4.7 manuals did Aston make?
How many Vantage 4.7 manuals did Aston make?
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TheAdVantage

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4 posts

62 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Hi all,

Just six months into owning my 2013 Bamford Rose tuned manual transmission 4.7 V8 Vantage and it seems it's a rarer car than I first thought scratchchin

Most 4.7s seem to have been ordered with the Sportshift box, does anyone know how many manual 4.7s Aston actually made?

Thanks.

bogie

17,079 posts

301 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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Dont know the 4.3 to 4.7 split, but apparently 2400 ish manual V8 in total on UK roads according to howmanyleft data

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?page=2&q=aston+...

You can just email client services at the factory and they will tell you how many of your car/model/transmission were made.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

206 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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I dont know the split between SS and Manuals but there were the following numbers built

8154 4.3 Coupes
3020 4.3 Roadsters
5215 4.7 Coupes
2323 4.7 Roadsters
1911 4.7 S Coupes
825 4.7 S Roadsters

plus of course a further 200 V8 AMR 4.7 and 150 GT8 4.7.

So totals for 4.3/4.7 as follows
11,174 4.3
10,624 4.7

<Sourced from a AMHT post a few months ago>

Jon39

14,921 posts

172 months

Sunday 4th July 2021
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AdamV12V said:

So totals for 4.3/4.7 as follows
11,174 4.3
10,624 4.7

4.3 production from Autumn 2005 to Autumn 2008 - ( 3 years)
4.7 production from Autumn 2008 to Autumn 2018 - (10 years)

Gaydon buzzing - a very busy time building 4.3 Vantages, DB9s and DBSs.


TheAdVantage

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62 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Thanks all, but somewhat inconclusive, all I can really add is this observation.....

Over the year I've been studying all this, and at any given time, if you wanted to buy a TVR Cerbera you'd actually have slightly more choice than if you were looking for a manual 4.7 Vantage coupe.

That surprised me as the Cerbera is known to be a low volume car, indeed we also know there were only 1,996 Cerberas ever built. These were all manual transmission coupes of course, and a mix of 4.2 & 4.5 V8s with a few speed six cars topping up the number.

My point being I would have thought what's available on the used market should be reasonably reflective of the original production numbers, as in theory a similar percentage will always be on the market. I also note the prices of all V8 Vantages are on the rise but if you want a manual transmission 4.7 coupe it's rare to find examples under £50,000 now, indeed they're not easy to find full stop!

A 4.7 convertible with a manual transmission is even rarer and more expensive still, all the 4.3 cars are definitely on the up but perhaps its the particlar rarity of both 4.7 body styles paired with a manual box that's been forcing their values up even further scratchchin

Odly while it seems more people went for the Sportshift transmission in period, because these days the classic front engined naturally aspirated V8 rear wheel drive manual transmission formular is the accepted Holly Grail for the enthust buyer, more people are looking for manual cars.

I guess its because manuals are very much a dying breed now, I also think time will reveal all the manual transmission Vantage variants will hold their value a bit better than the Sportshift cars for the above reason, this being further enhanced by the rule of supply & demand because less manual transmission Vantages were built overall in the first place, and this being especially true of the 4.7.

Its all speculation of course, however the one thing I do know for sure, if it had taken me another 6 months to find a good 4.7 manual I wouldn't have been able to afford it rolleyes

Lady luck was clearly smiling on me in January of this year when I found my dream 4.7 manual transmission V8 Vantage cloud9


Bobajobbob

1,599 posts

125 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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As the owner of a 4.7 manual Vantage Roadster I would of course agree wholeheartedly with you however I suspect I may be somewhat biased. Manuals do trade at a small premium but I don't think they could be considered rare.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

206 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Bobajobbob said:
As the owner of a 4.7 manual Vantage Roadster I would of course agree wholeheartedly with you however I suspect I may be somewhat biased. Manuals do trade at a small premium but I don't think they could be considered rare.
Yes, I was always under the impression that Manuals in the V8V's outsold SS cars to be honest. I think the OP is probably confusing the current crazy period for all sports cars at the moment where anything and everything is being snapped up overnight, causing prices to rise, and that probably applies more so to manuals perhaps as they are perceived as more desirable and less to go wrong / maintain.

Also don't forget that probably 95% of TVR's remained in the UK, whereas typically around 20% of AM production I think has remained in the UK. So when you apply 20% to the above numbers, there are probably similar numbers of Vantages to Cerberas in the UK, and I imagine the Astons are going to sell quicker given the poor rep TVR's have.

Dewi 2

1,927 posts

94 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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TheAdVantage said:
My point being I would have thought what's available on the used market should be reasonably reflective of the original production numbers, as in theory a similar percentage will always be on the market. I also note the prices of all V8 Vantages are on the rise but if you want a manual transmission 4.7 coupe it's rare to find examples under £50,000 now, indeed they're not easy to find full stop!

A 4.7 convertible with a manual transmission is even rarer and more expensive still,

Well done for finding the model you wanted.

As bogie mentioned above, you should be able to obtain the answer to your original question from Gaydon.

I know that after the Sportshift was first announced (4.3 era), many cars were ordered in Sportshift form.
Later on, manuals were again in demand.

From a very small, probably unrepresentative sample, I can tell you which gearchange all of the UK 4.7 Vantage colour Grigio Titanio cars have.

COUPE . . . .= 6 manual & 1 Sportshift.
ROADSTER = 3 manual & 4 Sportshift.
Model Year 2009 - all 9 cars are manuals.
Model Year 2010 - all 5 cars are Sportshift (4 being Roadsters).


Some premium sports cars have several owners soon after being new (try the latest thing for a while). Therefore during those initial years, you would have found quite a choice on AM main dealer forecourts. As you indicate, not so many VH Vantages on the main dealer lists now. Some of the cars will have now become 'keepers', so will rarely become available.

Please let us know when you obtain the answer. My bet would probably be, not much difference.

Enjoy your car. Are you going to keep the bright finish 6 bar grille black ?





TheAdVantage

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62 months

Monday 5th July 2021
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Dewi 2 said:

Well done for finding the model you wanted.

Enjoy your car. Are you going to keep the bright finish 6 bar grille black ?
Many thanks to everyone who's answered my first post.

To answer the above question the previous owner had Bamford Rose lower the car fractionally when they did the geo, at which point he went with gloss black on the original V spoke alloys, a yellow finish to the six piston Brembo calipers and the black grill.

The overall effect is mean but not murdered out, I like his approach which sits well against Aston's timeless Tungsten paint finish, so I think I'll leave it as is.

I have considered blacking out the chrome window trims, although I'm in two minds as this may prove a step too far.

scratchchin