Is it an employees market now?
Is it an employees market now?
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donnie85

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131 posts

90 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/busi...

amongst other articles this is one from the BBC today about how so many industries are struggling to find staff. From my own personal perspective which I put a thread on, I updated my CV and was taken aback how many interview offers I received in a short space of time. This was never the case before. The job offer I have accepted I expected to get maybe 5k more but ended up getting offered £10k more then my current salary, the jobs out there seem to be offering better wages at last as well although rising inflation will balance that out soon enough.

Anyone else finding the same and at last the market favours the job seekers??

Muzzer79

12,633 posts

209 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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We're in warehousing and are really struggling for labour

Just not the heads out there, ostensibly due to Brexit, Covid & furlough.

Pay rates are rising, more jobs than heads, therefore yes I'd say it is definitely an employee's market at present.

Countdown

47,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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I work in Finance and it's been an upwards slope since Brexit.

voram

8,029 posts

56 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Yes, definite shortage of people and, more particularly, the competent people employers are actually looking for.

More than a million foreign workers left Britain during the last couple of years.

Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Countdown said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.

andyA700

3,452 posts

59 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Munter said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
The last Biotech company where my OH was working last year, were paying her the equivalent of £13 PH as an MSc qualified research scientist with twenty years experience.

BritishBlitz87

737 posts

70 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Munter said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
And that's a good wage for the industry. Most get the absolute bare minimum £8.21 an hour.

TCX

1,976 posts

77 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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It is in construction,get offers all the time in London,even up north East England rates are getting better,all across the board,saw ad for traffic marshall's,lol £15 mid week,£30 week ends an hour most basic unskilled job

Countdown

47,002 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Munter said:
Countdown said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
How much do you think they should be paid?

Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Countdown said:
Munter said:
Countdown said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
How much do you think they should be paid?
Whatever gets them to do the job. But more than that clearly, because nobody wants the job.

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

189 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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The haulage industry is a 100k short of drivers I'm in the motor trade tech and MOT tester we have a huge shortage mainly caused by the companies tbf.
Poor base pay with top ups via bonuses in hitting target via hours sold or up sells. A basic tech and tester can earn more with the bonuses than a senior tech is on so there is a huge shortage of diag/senior/master techs.
Hardly any new blood entering the trade I'm 29 and I'm the 2nd youngest workers out of 18 techs between the 2 brands. It's also a extremely unforgiving job long hours always get blamed for something cars not getting easier etc etc.
On top of that the mot side is lossing tester every year huge shortage there too.
Autorecruit UK leading temp contract company is crying out for techs and testers ATM with high pay rates £16 per hour upwards.

It's going to get worse as the 50+ age group techs are very shortly going too leave and or have and there just isn't the numbers coming in. I'm 29 and looking to get out now or move to contracting.

InitialDave

14,251 posts

141 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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andyA700 said:
The last Biotech company where my OH was working last year, were paying her the equivalent of £13 PH as an MSc qualified research scientist with twenty years experience.
Yep, this is not by any means an unusual scenario.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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BritishBlitz87 said:
Munter said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
And that's a good wage for the industry. Most get the absolute bare minimum £8.21 an hour.
£8.72/hour is the rate since April. - £8.21 is a few years ago.

cml24

1,546 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Countdown said:
Munter said:
Countdown said:
"Mr Lee employs waiters and cleaners on £10 per hour, which increases to £13 for a sous chef."

I wonder why nobody wants to leave what they currently do for one of his horrible jobs.
How much do you think they should be paid?
That does not sound unreasonable considering location as well.

Macneil

1,056 posts

102 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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We've just been on our first "holiday" for 18 months, a short UK city break. Nearly every pub and restaurant we passed was advertising for staff, and everywhere we ate the servers were young British kids with zero experience. One lad was on a trial shift, and had clearly not been shown even how to take an apple pay payment.

I know a young sous chef, on furlough, having the time of his life, doesn't need to work till August.
A local niche food retailer was accused publicly of poaching staff by a pub owner because he took on their Head Chef, on decent hours and decent money after the pub had f*cked him over for years.

I think it's great that people now have better choices but those of us who've seen 15% inflation will also wonder if we're about to get it again.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Macneil said:
We've just been on our first "holiday" for 18 months, a short UK city break. Nearly every pub and restaurant we passed was advertising for staff, and everywhere we ate the servers were young British kids with zero experience. One lad was on a trial shift, and had clearly not been shown even how to take an apple pay payment.

I know a young sous chef, on furlough, having the time of his life, doesn't need to work till August.
A local niche food retailer was accused publicly of poaching staff by a pub owner because he took on their Head Chef, on decent hours and decent money after the pub had f*cked him over for years.

I think it's great that people now have better choices but those of us who've seen 15% inflation will also wonder if we're about to get it again.
Really good to see our next generation actually going out and doing these jobs when they might not have previously.

They will be up to speed quickly enough.

Normodog

273 posts

62 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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I wish someone would let my employer know, all the experience is walking out the door as we're being offered better terms elsewhere.

My current employers point of view is that they 'wont let us (the technicians) hold them to ransom'. And refuse to improve the terms of employment.

This is a skilled role overhauling gas turbine engines, yet they want to pay peanuts because 'we're privileged to work in nice part of the country'.

So far to fill the gaps they have hired a storeman and a restaurant manager. Trying to teach get them up to speed is very difficult, we're trying to teach them an apprenticeships worth of knowledge on the job in a short space of time. It's had the expected results.

tapandunwrap

122 posts

228 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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I work in a service industry that brings in lots of entry level and junior graduates and college level recruits each year. there are almost none with 1-2y experience on the market, and those people have in their ranks they are holding onto for dear life. We've lost a full year of intake of our product, which is people. Having to pivot our hiring and approach as a result.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

159 months

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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citizensm1th said:
29 days annual leave
Bonus
Car scheme

Downside is contractual 48hours a week which averages to that over 17 weeks. 9.5hour average working days.