Start a LTD company - but not take wages
Start a LTD company - but not take wages
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RichTT

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3,266 posts

200 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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As I work on a rotational basis and want to eventually move out of the discipline I'm in I was pondering how to get a sideline started without getting stung on the higher rate tax.

Am I able to set up a ltd. business and just not take any income from it? Just leave any earnings from the business in a business account until such time as it becomes sustainable as a sole income?

98elise

32,540 posts

190 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Yes you can, but you will pay corp tax on it.

Someone cleverer than me will give you a more detailed reply smile

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Yes, perfectly possible.
The company could issue dividends from retained funds and the tax you’d pay is treated differently to income tax - use one of the contractor calculators to see the impacts of dividends vs salary.

RichTT

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3,266 posts

200 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I was hoping that it was as simple as that. Thanks.

Don't mind paying corp. tax as that's a given, but I'm loathe to pay higher rate on anything if I don't need to.

Cheers.

98elise

32,540 posts

190 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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RichTT said:
I was hoping that it was as simple as that. Thanks.

Don't mind paying corp. tax as that's a given, but I'm loathe to pay higher rate on anything if I don't need to.

Cheers.
How old are you? Putting it all in a SIPP as a company contribution is very tax efficient.

DSLiverpool

16,503 posts

231 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Get your ltd to buy you a eleccy car?

Mr Pointy

13,341 posts

188 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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RichTT said:
I was hoping that it was as simple as that. Thanks.

Don't mind paying corp. tax as that's a given, but I'm loathe to pay higher rate on anything if I don't need to.
There's a shed load of information on this site & this guide in particular looks at dividends:

https://www.contractoruk.com/limited_companies/lim...
https://www.contractoruk.com/

RichTT

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Saturday 10th July 2021
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98elise said:
How old are you? Putting it all in a SIPP as a company contribution is very tax efficient.
41, hadn't thought of that actually.

RichTT

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Saturday 10th July 2021
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DSLiverpool said:
Get your ltd to buy you a eleccy car?
I would more likely need a little commercial vehicle at some point but good suggestion.

RichTT

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Saturday 10th July 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
There's a shed load of information on this site & this guide in particular looks at dividends:

https://www.contractoruk.com/limited_companies/lim...
https://www.contractoruk.com/
Thanks, I'll have a good look through those pages.

98elise

32,540 posts

190 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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RichTT said:
98elise said:
How old are you? Putting it all in a SIPP as a company contribution is very tax efficient.
41, hadn't thought of that actually.
You can stick up to 40k a year into your pension, plus use 3 years of unused contributions from previous as long as you have a pension that you could have contributed to in those years. It's called carry forward rules.

If you don't have a SIPP but are starting a business I would suggest opening one now regardless. Even if you don't use your contributions now you are effectively locking in the ability to carry forward a few years down the line.

mattcooke99

44 posts

96 months

Monday 12th July 2021
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In a similar vein, if starting a sideline whilst working, can you offset the start up costs against your income from PAYE.

IE What I was thinking, was if you need a van, laptop & tools to start your new business, you could have a chunk of expenditure incurred whilst still working - could that somehow offset against your salary to lower your normal income tax?

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 12th July 2021
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No - especially if you run the business through a limited company. Initial trading losses generated by a limited company are generally only offsetsetable against future profits made by the limited company.

RichTT

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3,266 posts

200 months

Tuesday 13th July 2021
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Much appreciated suggestions.

I'm not PAYE currently but self assessment High Rate employed through an overseas company.

Still a lot of research and planning to look at.